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38. the term is so loosely designed that its vague boundaries are bound to cause

Mon May 7, 2018, 12:24 PM

May 2018

confusion and divisiveness. That is a the epitome of a classic shit-stir. The stirring continues when you have a now-divided group start to turn on each other, with the leaders of one side or the other (in this case I see it more with the purveyors of the wypipo meme) turning it into some sort of combination purity test and a dominance scheme (ie. subtle hints in a direction that if you dislike the term you are somehow suspect).

I, as a PoC, am never going to use it. I have far better things to do and I think "racist" and "privileged" are already useful word tools for my kit. I don't need cloudy, amorphous hipster-net-speak neologisms to fight my battles for what I believe in. I so hope this claptrap doesn't become a "thing" here in Europe.

Just my two cents.............

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Wypipo [View all] Dreamer Tatum May 2018 OP

Agreed, why are white DU members suddenly under attack ? Why is this permissible on DU ? Trust Buster May 2018 #1

Because some people are bored with attacking Trump? TreasonousBastard May 2018 #2

What I find bewildering is the assurance that whiteness is a cure unto itself Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #3

I find it bewildering that you interpret "wypipo" as "whiteness is a cure unto itself". DanTex May 2018 #22

Then work to end it. Anon-C May 2018 #42

Because white people are not under attack on DU. boston bean May 2018 #4

Oh. Then I guess maybe it should be "Racistwypipo"? Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #6

no "wypipo" will suffice. boston bean May 2018 #7

Thanks for proving my point. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #10

Yep dumbcat May 2018 #16

you are proving mine. Thanks so much! boston bean May 2018 #18

For whom? procon May 2018 #39

I prefer to exclude myself from the company of racists and feel 100% correct they are the divisive boston bean May 2018 #50

You mean like saying Effie lacks the understanding of a preschooler? ehrnst May 2018 #105

Crickets. ehrnst May 2018 #131

I see that those among us who are so clearly masterful in their discourse and ehrnst May 2018 #132

What should black folks who are racist be called in your opinion ? Trust Buster May 2018 #9

Racism implies a position of power Lunabell May 2018 #48

Racism doesnt necessarily imply positions of power askyagerz May 2018 #54

Yes, it does EffieBlack May 2018 #55

No if you are blanketing because you hate that group askyagerz May 2018 #60

You don't understand the terminology you're using but saying it over and over EffieBlack May 2018 #63

Actually no. EX500rider May 2018 #66

I grew up with plenty of racists askyagerz May 2018 #80

None of us are likely to meet each other in the real world askyagerz May 2018 #75

I saw that movie Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #78

I wonder why you have the right to define this? wasupaloopa May 2018 #99

I'm not defining it EffieBlack May 2018 #107

It can be from ignorance, hate, superiority issues askyagerz May 2018 #124

Of course it does. Demsrule86 May 2018 #94

Indeed, and I thought this was common sense by now, guess not. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #77

Where is that written? Common sense the wasupaloopa May 2018 #100

If you do even a minimal amount of studying, beyond looking it up in the dictionary, EffieBlack May 2018 #108

A lot of things are written, and debated, and theorized. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #110

It certainly has more credibility than a bunch of people sitting around chatting about it on social EffieBlack May 2018 #125

The power plus stipulative definition of racism is not universally accepted. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #128

Vested interest some have in making sure black people can be racist too, when they cant. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #119

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #123

... Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #126

Are you making the argument that black people cannot be racist? That they are morally superior? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #79

Black people do not have the power to do to us what is being done to them with systematic racism... Demsrule86 May 2018 #95

You are stripping the individual of their autonomy. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #97

No, that's what racism does - that's the point EffieBlack May 2018 #109

You are making the claim that an individual cannot be racist. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #112

That is nonsense. Power is not meaningless in context with racism regardless of Demsrule86 May 2018 #134

It has nothing to do with moral superiority gollygee May 2018 #118

No racism does not.. But 'Discrimination' implies a position of power nini May 2018 #120

Racists. The same as Asians who are racist, Hispanics who are racist, etc. George II May 2018 #114

Not true, according to the instigator of this nonsense. lark May 2018 #56

since when does any other activism mean someone can't be a racist or bigoted... explain that first. boston bean May 2018 #91

Do racists march against drumpf? lark May 2018 #121

# 1 yes. # 2 they could be wypipo. boston bean May 2018 #122

White people are under attack? EffieBlack May 2018 #8

Disparaging a whole race of people is divisive and ignorant IMO. Trust Buster May 2018 #11

There we go with the "divisive" accusation again EffieBlack May 2018 #12

Very simple. I have a clear understanding of what DU's mission is. Promoting racially motivated Trust Buster May 2018 #13

Your concern is duly noted. /nt tonedevil May 2018 #14

That's not a definition. That's an assertion that you don't like it. EffieBlack May 2018 #15

Glad that you can put it in terms "simple enough" for Effie to understand. ehrnst May 2018 #103

Who is doing that? (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #102

This white person does not feel under attack xmas74 May 2018 #139

I'm a white DU member. I'm not even slightly under attack. DanTex May 2018 #21

Me either Lunabell May 2018 #51

Agree. Didn't even know what the expression meant until I just looked it up... deurbano May 2018 #65

Nor am I , I have however been very kindly and patiently asked to look Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #81

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #133

I'm a white, protestant (in background) middle aged male HopeAgain May 2018 #90

Agreed BlueDog22 May 2018 #140

Same here. xmas74 May 2018 #141

From what I can tell, there are no longer any meaningful rules Crunchy Frog May 2018 #24

BINGO !!!!!!!!! Trust Buster May 2018 #25

Bingo. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #86

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie May 2018 #29

I agree. Demit May 2018 #40

Weird how you can predict who will say what around here, isnt it! Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #82

This is a great example of white victimhood...seriously on DU? Wypipo is an abbreviation for Demsrule86 May 2018 #61

The main problem is that it's just a respelling of "white people" with a bunch of negatives... TCJ70 May 2018 #64

What negatives? I have seen none... Demsrule86 May 2018 #71

I don't think you know what the word means. TCJ70 May 2018 #73

You do understand this is a humor site and does not make your case as being insulting... Demsrule86 May 2018 #83

It is not an insult it is humor...actually. Demsrule86 May 2018 #92

One would think that what threatens us all would unite us, and we would not use our differences... hlthe2b May 2018 #5

Well, SOMEONE is trying to use our differences to divide us and I'm not convinced it's "US" groundloop May 2018 #49

DURec leftstreet May 2018 #17

I think the real outrage is that Black people dared to label a segment of the white population nini May 2018 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #26

How's the weather in Moscow? KatyMan May 2018 #32

It is a joke too...a humor site for heaven's sake. Demsrule86 May 2018 #85

Completely absurd. DanTex May 2018 #20

My logic is twisted? I didn't say it was as offensive as other words Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #27

Yes, you literally said "as offensive as any other term". Direct quote. Read the OP again. DanTex May 2018 #28

I did say that. My mistake. But I think I'll stick to it, in retrospect. Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #30

Thank you. I rest my case at "wypipo is as bad as the n-word". DanTex May 2018 #31

Is Wypipo the last thing thousands of white people have heard ehrnst May 2018 #101

The fact that you feel the need to use a euphemism for that word should tell you where it stands EffieBlack May 2018 #88

.... ehrnst May 2018 #104

Wow.. exactly. Cha May 2018 #129

... NurseJackie May 2018 #33

They're not ready for you DanTex. Anon-C May 2018 #44

It's a tough old world when one is white. LanternWaste May 2018 #23

I have so many stories to tell about the pain and suffering I have endured due to my white Demsrule86 May 2018 #89

Don't ever change, Dreamer Tatum. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #34

I assure you, I won't. Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #45

Why? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Anon-C May 2018 #46

it is a good indicator on who i can freely disregard as a progressive person. Inkfreak May 2018 #35

What is wrong with Soxfan58 May 2018 #36

I LOL'd True Dough May 2018 #41

All pipo matter! sweetloukillbot May 2018 #113

Can you say double standard? YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #37

The fact you need to use a euphemism to describe what Black people are called ehrnst May 2018 #135

Double standard period YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #136

Not at all period ehrnst May 2018 #137

the term is so loosely designed that its vague boundaries are bound to cause Exotica May 2018 #38

You're very gifted E., 'cloudy, amorphous hipster-net-speak neologism'! appalachiablue May 2018 #74

thank you for the compliment Exotica May 2018 #93

BINGO! Post of the month. BlueWI May 2018 #138

Let's keep it real. The reason that White people are sometimes criticized is walkingman May 2018 #43

::sigh:: I miss being a honky. n/t TygrBright May 2018 #47

"fatuous" betsuni May 2018 #52

The main problem is that it's just a respelling of "white people" with a bunch of negatives... TCJ70 May 2018 #57

... LexVegas May 2018 #58

The term's actual definition mercuryblues May 2018 #59

The problem is the word is literally just "white people" spelled differently TCJ70 May 2018 #62

So what. mercuryblues May 2018 #69

You don't have a problem with a descriptor of an entire race being redefined into a negative? TCJ70 May 2018 #70

You keep insisting that it is a descriptor of an mercuryblues May 2018 #84

White people is a descriptor of an entire race. TCJ70 May 2018 #96

The author is very clear mercuryblues May 2018 #116

This is not an issue to me. I really don't care about derogatory slang for white people. Tobin S. May 2018 #67

My two cents angrychair May 2018 #68

"some move on and some do not. Some quit and some take a break." progressoid May 2018 #115

"The term is meant to refer to a group by skin color ..." left-of-center2012 May 2018 #72

Your logic seems a bit off. kwassa May 2018 #76

This is one of those things on DU that takes on a life it's own. wasupaloopa May 2018 #87

Identity politics and collective guilt do not win elections PatentlyDemocratic May 2018 #98

Trump won using white people's racial anxiety- their bigotry and sexism were normalized. bettyellen May 2018 #106

If you're white and can't handle the phrase wypipo SpicyBoi May 2018 #111

I remember when the term was "honky" treestar May 2018 #117

It always humors me when DU gets into these battles mokawanis May 2018 #127

Seriously ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #130

I just play the game of "Who's the real racist here?" wonkwest May 2018 #142

My opinion BlueDog22 May 2018 #143