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KoKo

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166. After he supported Clarence Thomas for Supremes....I never saw him as anything

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:59 PM

Aug 2012

but a Center Right Dem...(Delaware/Banking) but, I agree with you. Not time to do this now since Biden is out there whipping what's left of the left (Labor) to get on board with our President.

Hillary is much different from what we "non-AIPAC" supporting Americans thought she would be.

It would be horrible to put her in as VEEP when she's become a supporter of "WARS ACROSS THE WORLD" spreading a view that's a total opposite to those of us who want to end these Wars for Oil, Minierals and the rest of the Commodities!

Enough if enough of the DLC/DNC/Third Way Model. It didn't work any better than Reagan/Bush/Greenspan has.

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We Need a Landslide. We Need Hillary Clinton as President Obama's VP. [View all] David Zephyr Aug 2012 OP

Uh no... trumad Aug 2012 #1

He won't deliver Florida or Virginia. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #4

Obama won Florida and Virginia without Hillary on the ticket in 2008 Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #59

Do you even see the polls? Obama is 5-8 points ahead in VA and leading by 3 in FL WI_DEM Aug 2012 #62

She probably will campaign for Obama in these target areas. FarPoint Aug 2012 #66

She won't campaign for him Floyd_Gondolli Aug 2012 #68

So what? There's also an unwritten rule that presidential candidates release multiple tax returns. Chiyo-chichi Aug 2012 #145

I disagree..he has a lead in Florida and the Seniors will be voting against changing INdemo Aug 2012 #140

you want to make some bets on that? snooper2 Aug 2012 #142

Rmoney shot himself in the foot in both those states by picking Ryan. KamaAina Aug 2012 #149

I don't have anything against Biden, but... Art_from_Ark Aug 2012 #97

Rumor has it he's seriously considering a run in 2016. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #117

He would be 74 years old in 2016 Art_from_Ark Aug 2012 #119

LOL. Well, in the words of Elvis Presley: AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #125

I agree, but I don't... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #138

"he was cheated out of his victory" Politicalboi Aug 2012 #153

I like Hillary. But ... no. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #177

I'm good with Joe, but thanks for asking. Scuba Aug 2012 #2

Think about how voters would react to a Ryan vs Clinton V-P choice Coyotl Aug 2012 #141

Women will vote Biden 2 to 1 over Ryan, and you won't have the stigma of .... Scuba Aug 2012 #144

What better way to cower to Repubs' fake Biden controversy than to take their advice! kysrsoze Aug 2012 #3

It wasn't their "advice". It's their greatest fear and it's why they "suggested" it. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #6

Just because you believe in this plan doesn't mean the rest of us do. kysrsoze Aug 2012 #12

It's about voter turn out. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #15

It's not like shes not already on the team. If people aren't willin to turn out now... kysrsoze Aug 2012 #22

How about stopping GOP's voter suppression? KeepItReal Aug 2012 #63

You're stretching a GOP talking point rather thin... CabCurious Aug 2012 #100

Nope xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #38

No thanks. zappaman Aug 2012 #5

Seriously? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #7

Read the polls. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #10

Bill is the most popular politician, not Hillary. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #14

Read the polls. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #20

Doesn't matter. Because It's. Not. Going. To. Happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #33

Where are you finding these marvellous effects from changing VP at the last moment from? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #8

Wasn't Zephyr a PUMA back in '08? Panasonic Aug 2012 #24

Wondering? David Zephyr Aug 2012 #35

I can't see you being against her muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #46

That was 2007. Read my posts from January 2008 through December 2008. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #53

Well, no, that was the first one I found from you about your primary preference muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #71

Voter enthusiasm David Zephyr Aug 2012 #109

Pro-Hillary, but not anti-Obama, as far as I can see muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #37

Says the new member ... nt TBF Aug 2012 #47

David was one of Obama's biggest supporters. Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #72

Thanks. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #73

We know, David. No worries. DevonRex Aug 2012 #83

Appreciated. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #107

((hugs)) Good to see you here. Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #87

I wonder, don't you think it kind of paternalistic to assume that down ticket doesn't matter to patrice Aug 2012 #105

Paternalistic? Where did I mention gender in my OP? David Zephyr Aug 2012 #106

I took the Hillary suggestion as a proposed gaurantee of women's vote. No? nt patrice Aug 2012 #111

David is a Democrat who should be believed DevonRex Aug 2012 #81

I know, but the PUMA thing wasn't about Hillary in the end. Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #88

You're right. It sure wasn't about Hillary. Nor DevonRex Aug 2012 #103

Why would you reference something from 08 when you joined DU last month? Skip Intro Aug 2012 #110

can we at least agree that PUMAs suck? MjolnirTime Aug 2012 #129

isn't it obvious? MjolnirTime Aug 2012 #128

You think Hillary can do more than I think she can. lob1 Aug 2012 #9

Helping keep the White House & Congress Democratic for 4 years is enough. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #13

Did you even read my post? lob1 Aug 2012 #34

Yes. I answered it. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #36

Win rethug women? xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #58

Obama would lose by a landslide if he dumped his loyal confidante and advisor. Thank goodness Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #169

I believe all the Astroturf Puma members are now disgruntled Teabaggers Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #11

!!!???!!! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #79

Hillary Clinton is a well-known politician whom many people already have formed opinions of..... marmar Aug 2012 #16

No. No. No. 99Forever Aug 2012 #17

I'm not suggesting your RW trolling but just so that you're aware -- Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #18

Sarah Palin said that because they fear this scenario more than anything else Coyotl Aug 2012 #139

That sounds rather Byzantine for an Alaskan -- just sayin' Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #148

She gets her talking points memo from outside of Alaska! Coyotl Aug 2012 #150

Nope. She and Cheney didn't say that because they're scared of it. Silly rabbit. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #171

You were braver than I was in saying that. But I thought it. It's a RW meme. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #170

...ah....NO.. Tikki Aug 2012 #19

Are we back here, again? eissa Aug 2012 #21

No. If forced birth after rape doesn't bring women DevonRex Aug 2012 #23

+1000 CakeGrrl Aug 2012 #31

Exactly! Thank you! eom BlueCaliDem Aug 2012 #42

Speak to it DevonRex! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #80

+1! uponit7771 Aug 2012 #94

Women are already on board with Obama. It's independents that is the group in question. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #182

lol. no Whisp Aug 2012 #25

Well then... get rid of the fucking companies who own the right to counting our votes fascisthunter Aug 2012 #26

President Obama is sticking with Joe. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2012 #27

Biden is outstanding!!! He's the one and Obama has confirmed it! n/t woodsprite Aug 2012 #28

here's proof of how brilliant that idea is Enrique Aug 2012 #29

And change the media focus for the next 2 months? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #30

294 views, 0 recs DemocratsForProgress Aug 2012 #32

One rec now... DemocratsForProgress Aug 2012 #44

probably an accident CabCurious Aug 2012 #99

That is rather noteworthy under the circumstances... CabCurious Aug 2012 #98

Hmm. A picture is worth a thousand words, so.... Liberal Veteran Aug 2012 #39

I'm thinking of buying some sneakers. Do you have any recommendations? DefenseLawyer Aug 2012 #40

Why look! What brand is that on James' feet pray tell? DevonRex Aug 2012 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author patrice Aug 2012 #104

That's just the latest gop talking point and I have to disagree. LeftofObama Aug 2012 #41

No. If theywere to swap VPs, it would need to be somebody 2016-ready CabCurious Aug 2012 #43

We had this conversation 4 years ago. It is now settled. This conversation today is unhelpful. Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #45

I've always loved Hillary xmas74 Aug 2012 #48

Oy vey alcibiades_mystery Aug 2012 #49

Hillary Clinton does not inspire any more enthusiasm than Biden does. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #50

I'm willing to wait for her to run for President in 2016. sufrommich Aug 2012 #51

I could see Chelsea down the road - TBF Aug 2012 #52

Chelsea may be a very fine and intelligent person. amandabeech Aug 2012 #143

How many city council presidents go on to become president? nt TBF Aug 2012 #146

Not enough. n/t amandabeech Aug 2012 #157

Ah jeeze........ Historic NY Aug 2012 #54

...not this shit again. DevonRex Aug 2012 #60

LOL! randome Aug 2012 #65

You're seeing and reading puke run polls that show its even a horse race madokie Aug 2012 #55

Are you kidding me? Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #56

Sarah Palin agrees with you. Joe Biden has done a great job and we'll do fine WI_DEM Aug 2012 #61

I don't agree riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #64

If it isn't broken don't fix it. sellitman Aug 2012 #67

Since President Obama will not replace Biden this post was a waste of time. WI_DEM Aug 2012 #69

I take it that you took the brown acid liberaltrucker Aug 2012 #70

FACEPALM! FSogol Aug 2012 #74

HAhahahahahahahaHa cliffordu Aug 2012 #75

no thank you.... mike_c Aug 2012 #76

Are you kidding... and miss the debate between Smokin' Joe and Eddie Munster? Raster Aug 2012 #77

Bigger issue at stake: the need to groom the 2016 candidate. Auggie Aug 2012 #78

Well that would require joe Biden to expire first. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #82

NO. And I was a Hillary supporter in 2008. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #84

Right wing mastabatory fantasy JoePhilly Aug 2012 #85

While I love HRC and would love to see her in the White House someday... Chorophyll Aug 2012 #86

You agree with Sarah Palin? AWESOME!! REP Aug 2012 #89

Everyone knows where I stand when it comes to Hillary Clinton. juajen Aug 2012 #122

Oops, still not used to the new DU. Excuse, I did not mean to reply to my own post. juajen Aug 2012 #123

Survey says: (XXX). Sorry! Robb Aug 2012 #90

Pffffffft. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #91

Well said. nt AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #112

He loses my vote if she's VP. Occulus Aug 2012 #92

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #93

too late, that would look like desperation at this point quinnox Aug 2012 #95

seems like a silly idea to me .. I like Joe right where he is proud patriot Aug 2012 #96

Oh boy oh boy she can get the women's vote for him tularetom Aug 2012 #101

waaaaay too late spanone Aug 2012 #102

I was a Hillary supporter in 2008, and I'm telling you this is a bad idea OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #108

Yes. Agree. emilyg Aug 2012 #115

If this was going to be done it should have been done months ago former-republican Aug 2012 #113

No, the convention is when it should happen, with Biden stepping aside just before it starts Coyotl Aug 2012 #137

President Obama has made his choice already and that is Biden. Jennicut Aug 2012 #114

You are dreaming TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #116

. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #118

+1000 nt laundry_queen Aug 2012 #152

Oh please. You're in zero-reality land. They are not going to change now. Enough of this. RBInMaine Aug 2012 #120

I personally think it would be a net loss to the Dems Sheepshank Aug 2012 #121

No, Obama needs to resign and let Clinton run in his place Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #124

If Obama wanted Hillary as VP, he would have picked her in 2008. MjolnirTime Aug 2012 #126

We still need a candidate for 2016 ecstatic Aug 2012 #127

Thank you for your concern. aquart Aug 2012 #130

No thanks. One Clinton as prez was enough. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #131

thank you! ibegurpard Aug 2012 #178

This cannot be done elegantly and thus would hurt as much if not more than stevenleser Aug 2012 #132

I supported Clinton in 2008 DawgHouse Aug 2012 #133

Indeed. Time to shake up American politics with some real excitement and a woman on the ticket Coyotl Aug 2012 #134

You've gotta be kidding. Why dump Biden when we're ahead? Isn't that something you do when you're leveymg Aug 2012 #135

We need lots on non-sequiturs. Hillary Clinton brings that. Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #136

stop it scheming daemons Aug 2012 #147

Your deep and heartfelt concern is noted Scootaloo Aug 2012 #151

I love Hillary Clinton. I really do. Pass that over here. Quantess Aug 2012 #154

Posts like this are why you're not running a campaign and someone who knows what to do is... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #155

If he wanted Hillary it would've happened in 2008 - TBF Aug 2012 #158

Agreed... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #160

To switch VP now shows weakness LynneSin Aug 2012 #156

Agree... JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #161

After he supported Clarence Thomas for Supremes....I never saw him as anything KoKo Aug 2012 #166

He voted AGAINST confirming Thomas karynnj Aug 2012 #172

No, no, no. George Clooney. flvegan Aug 2012 #159

she`s going to retire one way or another madrchsod Aug 2012 #162

Hillary seems to be very "Pro-War Interventionist" and she's too close with AIPAC for my taste.. KoKo Aug 2012 #163

Seek help. This is just plain crazy. Changing VPs would look like admitting a mistake Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #164

With all due respect, what an absolute wheelbarrel full of bullshit. Fuck Clinton as VP in 2012. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #165

I've read from a number of separate credible sources that she is exhausted. Just think about the Rowdyboy Aug 2012 #167

Obama would LOSE by a landslide if he dumped his V.P. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #168

I'm starting to get the feeling a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #176

kick Enrique Aug 2012 #173

173 replies, 3,147 views and only two likes. WI_DEM Aug 2012 #174

good god! ibegurpard Aug 2012 #175

Why repeat a republican talking point? Botany Aug 2012 #179

nice try rateyes Aug 2012 #180

No. Switching would look indecisive and weak The Second Stone Aug 2012 #181

Absolutely not. Alduin Aug 2012 #183

Ain't. Gonna. Happen. DinahMoeHum Aug 2012 #184