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LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
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Mon Sep 16, 2019, 02:34 PM
Sep 2019

Democrats needed to be swift and ruthless and announce impeachment either just after the Mueller report, or after Barr was found out to have mislead the public about Muellers findings, and Mueller wrote his letter of disagreement. We all know that the GOP, the RW media and even it turns out the MSM news would try and frame the narrative in Trump's favour, or turn it back on Democrats, as somehow it was a fault of their's that Mueller didn't come down harder.

They should have, could have, shaped that narrative themselves. That the Mueller report far from exonerating Trump, was damming, and more than enough to warrant impeachment, along with his other crimes and misdemeanours. Even if they have to feign anger. Pretend to care. Its up to Democrats to show up, be passionate, be singularly united in believing that more was needed than more strongly worded letters. But no, they allowed the MSM to define Democrats as spiit on the issue, as weak, as defeated.

It is now "common knowledge" that Mueller found nothing. That it was a waste of time and money. And that its in the past, and its too late to use Mueller's report now. Not saying that's all true, but its become "common knowledge".

Democrats blew their chance for the prime opportunity time. That's why I don't believe Nancy and Chuck will ever allow impeachment, and have never wanted it. They are firm on their belief that Democrats can beat him at the ballot box in 2020 and that that would be the safe conservative way to get back the WH. Personally I think they are playing with fire.

Unfortunately... jcgoldie Sep 2019 #1
I do vlyons Sep 2019 #5
That's agreed, nylons! mapol Sep 2019 #16
vylons, not nylons NBachers Sep 2019 #55
Wait, what about Cylons? Dagstead Bumwood Sep 2019 #57
That's all right, you didn't try rile on my day. NBachers Sep 2019 #62
Well played lol. cwydro Sep 2019 #63
Trump seems to be concerned about the Mooch NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #47
The whistleblower stonewall is being widely reported. You don't have to care if you don't want to.nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #21
I dont know what that means jcgoldie Sep 2019 #23
I do. Kingofalldems Sep 2019 #37
Scaramucci is trying to give a wake up call LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #41
I agree with all that except... jcgoldie Sep 2019 #42
I can totally see how you can be so optimistic LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #45
Key phrase: "if the elections are true. rickyhall Sep 2019 #56
Last night on Bill Maher both Michael Moore BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #61
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #73
I'm with you! BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #74
Good post. cwydro Sep 2019 #64
Well Trump cares lol. Gets under his skin grantcart Sep 2019 #44
I do. nt SayItLoud Sep 2019 #52
"Mooch"?? GetRidOfThem Sep 2019 #72
ITTMF malaise Sep 2019 #2
inquiry, what is ittmf? thanks . i also enjoy your posts . AllaN01Bear Sep 2019 #13
Thanks malaise Sep 2019 #14
thanks for the input . AllaN01Bear Sep 2019 #15
That'll work! calimary Sep 2019 #31
Seems that more and more alarms are going off. empedocles Sep 2019 #3
Why is Pelosi so quiet about this? triron Sep 2019 #4
the public Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #6
Pelosi is smart. erlewyne Sep 2019 #7
Thank you...THIS! Zoonart Sep 2019 #10
Actually, I think the exact opposite. I think KPN Sep 2019 #12
The only trouble with impeaching Donald Trump, however, is that mapol Sep 2019 #22
BIG assumption you are making: The Senate will remove him from office. triron Sep 2019 #24
Okay, but, mapol Sep 2019 #35
The bigger danger is that Trump's rating goes so low that he is out of office grantcart Sep 2019 #46
There is a considerable faction of ... Whiskeytide Sep 2019 #68
I think a more likely scenario is that when the financial grantcart Sep 2019 #69
That's a great analysis, and I had not really considered ... Whiskeytide Sep 2019 #70
She first of all knows a lot more stuff going on then we do duforsure Sep 2019 #71
The GOP and tRump are already claiming the investigation is/was "a political sham." Texin Sep 2019 #27
Senate Trial Cheviteau Sep 2019 #34
Actually they say he can just change the Senate rules. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #48
Moscow Mitch is NOT obligated constitutionally Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #66
Okay, so let me clarify/edit that they'll just bellow "See, it was KPN Sep 2019 #59
Exactly. "The public" wasn't for impeaching Nixon until hearings produced a drumbeat JHB Sep 2019 #28
But, then again, mapol Sep 2019 #36
He saw the writing on the wall, unlike Trump he could read. alfredo Sep 2019 #39
+1 ReformedGOPer Sep 2019 #58
He resigned so that he would not be impeached. If he had tried to stay... JHB Sep 2019 #43
So what? Your point? KPN Sep 2019 #60
nonsense Skittles Sep 2019 #54
One very good reason she is quiet is that she is third in line to be president in the event Pence Doitnow Sep 2019 #26
N/T Cheviteau Sep 2019 #38
And she is running for another term. There's that. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #49
Criminals Barr and McTurtle alongwith Iliyah Sep 2019 #8
Can they be impeached? Meadowoak Sep 2019 #33
go away scaramooochi IcyPeas Sep 2019 #9
Even a douche like the Mooch knows when to abandon ship. alfredo Sep 2019 #40
In 2016 I saw an interview with Scaramucci arguing that Trump was totally different in real life. Bleacher Creature Sep 2019 #11
To Icy Peas and Bleacher Creature: mapol Sep 2019 #17
Some respect, yes indeed. Duppers Sep 2019 #19
A thousand times yes. triron Sep 2019 #25
Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Sep 2019 #18
Seems to me that he is just responding/replying to Abramson's tweet. Marie Marie Sep 2019 #20
Well.... mapol Sep 2019 #32
Yes, I DO realize that but to me, he added nothing to the information Seth provided. Marie Marie Sep 2019 #53
yep, let's first create a problem by helping to put him in office AlexSFCA Sep 2019 #29
Impeaching Trump will NOT HELP him politically! It will tarnish him further - much further! ElementaryPenguin Sep 2019 #30
Agree. It is simple logic that it is more likely to hurt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #50
WE aren't the ones who can invoke the 25th Amendment DesertRat Sep 2019 #51
What took him so long? /nt jimlup Sep 2019 #65
But I'll bet he'd still be shilling for him if he hadn't been canned. catbyte Sep 2019 #67
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