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kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
50. I have no idea, lol. My dad was raised by jack mormons (nonpracticing).
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:22 AM
Sep 2012

He got thrown out of the Boy Scouts for not going to church (Mormon, of course, the only other choice was Catholic) and though my parents raised us nominally Presbyterian until I was 8, I'm pretty sure neither one of them believed any of that religious stuff at all. My mom had a presentation bible from her youth, but as far as I know it was just a dustcatcher.

I never spoke to my grandmother about religion. The LDS sent folks out periodically to hit her up for tithe but I don't know if she ever paid. My grandfather and uncles had to keep running them off the ranch. My grandparents were never married in the temple, of course. With such famous apostates in the family history as Bill Hickman and Emery Meacham, our whole branch was pretty much destined to drift away from the Mormons.

So I have no idea how to answer that. I don't think any of my 20 cousins are practicing Mormons (well maybe Pam..........but she got divorced early on and only had one child and never remarried, so if she is one, it's not real obvious and I haven't seen her in years anyway). The only doctrine my grandmother ever followed was storing food, but since they were on a remote NV ranch that was just common sense and everybody did it. Her parents were very churchy from what I understand, got married in the temple, but they died 25 years before I was even born.

Sorry I can't be of more help in this, lol. What I know of Mormons comes from dealing with them over the years, and hearing tales of other family members dealing with them. I don't think I could discuss religious matters with a Mormon and keep a straight face.

It has been my family's long and unhappy experience that yes, lying is permitted and even kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #1
Was it okay for Jesus to lie to protect his religion?? Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #2
Judaism said it was okay for Jews to lie about being Jewish... Green_Lantern Sep 2012 #62
There is a difference to lie to save yourself versus Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #71
Brigham Young’s Great-Great-Granddaughter has implied he asked permission to flip-flop Brother Buzz Sep 2012 #3
Suspicions Confirmed! rocktivity Sep 2012 #7
Um, wow. laundry_queen Sep 2012 #35
Romney doesn't deny it rocktivity Sep 2012 #39
Gotta love those 'journalists' taking liberties in their articles. nt laundry_queen Sep 2012 #66
I have no doubts at all... liberalmuse Sep 2012 #55
I find it unsettling that a church would condone lying when it protects or advances the church. Alduin Sep 2012 #4
I think it's safe to believe that installing a Mormon U.S. president rocktivity Sep 2012 #5
Wow, a religion that allows you to define your own morality tularetom Sep 2012 #11
aren't all religions like this? You can sin and then either go to confession or sammytko Sep 2012 #13
BY GEORGE (ROMNEY), I THINK YOU'VE GOT IT! rocktivity Sep 2012 #15
"the IRS would come down on him like a ton of bricks" jberryhill Sep 2012 #53
I meant in the sense of this going on: rocktivity Sep 2012 #58
Still don't get it jberryhill Sep 2012 #59
you are assuming HeiressofBickworth Sep 2012 #64
Well, that makes zero sense.... jberryhill Sep 2012 #65
Isn't there a commandment about that? IrishEyes Sep 2012 #6
The ten commandments PRECEDED Christ rocktivity Sep 2012 #8
You just brought up another interesting question tularetom Sep 2012 #16
Mormons believe they (the males)will become Gods Bluerthanblue Sep 2012 #18
and apparently, Satan is the son of God? Change has come Sep 2012 #42
and christians believe that christ is god. iemitsu Sep 2012 #54
So they are Polytheistic? annabanana Sep 2012 #68
it's difficult for me to Bluerthanblue Sep 2012 #70
If I were a biblical literalist and fundie christian I would definitely be calling kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #29
Since you come from a Mormon family, I'm curious did they define themselves as "Christians"? riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #38
I have no idea, lol. My dad was raised by jack mormons (nonpracticing). kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #50
They're non-Trinitarian. The Byzantines voted them out of the club back in some year I'm not going LeftyMom Sep 2012 #37
That's what I was thinking, that Mormons and Muslims have similar views of Christ. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #51
Christians believe that Jesus was concieved of a virgin, Mormons reject that teaching Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #67
When the founder of your faith is a conman, anything goes Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #9
ding ding ding ding ding kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #30
Well, their favorite Gospel in the New Testament is...Mark Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #10
Judging from Romney, it must be required. gulliver Sep 2012 #12
this video gives pretty good insight Bluerthanblue Sep 2012 #14
Great Non-Answer. What a moron. smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #31
When they were a persecuted church that might make sense Nikia Sep 2012 #17
But they were only "persecuted" because they were being held accountable for the financial... Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #20
In addition, at least in Illinois, they sent their kids onto farm land to steal the crops being AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #26
Do you have a link to more information? Change has come Sep 2012 #43
Family history. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #48
+1 jberryhill Sep 2012 #60
You DO know how Mormanism was founded, right? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #19
This is what happened to the golden plates jsr Sep 2012 #41
As likely an explanation as any... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #47
Mormons lie to their own children and church members Dems to Win Sep 2012 #21
you are wrong about Smith's death Green_Lantern Sep 2012 #23
And a Mormon mob destroyed the press jberryhill Sep 2012 #27
Google "Mountain Meadows Massacre" sometime. Frank Cannon Sep 2012 #45
Well aware jberryhill Sep 2012 #49
libel is not covered by press freedom Green_Lantern Sep 2012 #61
Ha! Libel... good one jberryhill Sep 2012 #63
you might be able to find.. oldhippydude Sep 2012 #28
Good lord. I'm personally descended from several Mormon polygamists, kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #33
Whenever you put a microphone in front of them, apparently Prophet 451 Sep 2012 #22
The entire right wing thinks it's OK to lie Kingofalldems Sep 2012 #24
For Money. slampoet Sep 2012 #25
when they want to become ceo of america spanone Sep 2012 #32
When they're awake? Vidar Sep 2012 #34
I was raised Mormon and was told it was never okay to lie. N/T FreeState Sep 2012 #36
Do you feel this thread is discriminatory? Change has come Sep 2012 #46
It's typical and plays into the way LDS people feel they are mistreated FreeState Sep 2012 #56
what were you taught about Gays, Blacks other minorities ? JI7 Sep 2012 #52
I was not taught racism, homophobia, yes FreeState Sep 2012 #57
Well. most of them are republicans. I'm just sayin'....nt Zorra Sep 2012 #40
I certainly think the evangelicals practice this liberal_at_heart Sep 2012 #44
In Romney's case, whenever he opens his mouth. MineralMan Sep 2012 #69
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