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Caliman73

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20. But I don't oppose it.

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:56 PM

Jun 2020

Understanding people's objection to the use, does not make it offensive to me.

When I hear the name Karen, I do not immediately think "racist" or "a sexist meme".

I actually try to see the context.

There was a DU'er that was called "Karen" because she asked her neighbors to consider the psychological well being of her pets when launching illegal fireworks. That is a misuse and offensive.

The shorthand Karen, has been adopted by Black people to describe the BBQ Becky's, Dorm room Debbie's, Picnic Patty's, etc... who call police on Black people occupying "normal spaces" or another way, just living and being (but Black).

It is not a great situation for anyone.

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Poll for those who supported Hillary in '16 primary and the use of label "Karen" [View all] Kaleva Jun 2020 OP

Per exit polls, 52% of white women voted for Trump. dawg day Jun 2020 #1

Per Pew Research, using better data than exit poll data, the actual number is lower than that. spooky3 Jun 2020 #22

And it isn't 47% of white women. It's 47% of those white women who voted. Which is a much Squinch Jun 2020 #26

And the white women who didn't vote didn't vote for Hillary StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #37

But they also didn't vote for Trump. Squinch Jun 2020 #44

But not voting for Hillary helped get Trump elected. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #47

That is a very SMALL majority.. whathehell Jun 2020 #30

Agree. If people are going to focus on demographic groups spooky3 Jun 2020 #56

Thank you. n/t. whathehell Jun 2020 #58

Far more w men voted for DTrump delisen Jun 2020 #61

I would vote for Karen Clinton. snort Jun 2020 #2

Don't use the label, but understand its use AND understand why people object to it. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #3

Tht would be the 1st choice then for you. Kaleva Jun 2020 #8

But I don't oppose it. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #20

I misunderstood your comment when you said you didn't use it yourself Kaleva Jun 2020 #29

No worries. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #34

+1 happybird Jun 2020 #11

+1 spooky3 Jun 2020 #23

Some may be afflicted with the Karen-a-virus DonaldsRump Jun 2020 #4

Whatcha looking for here? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #5

No problem with it qazplm135 Jun 2020 #6

Spell it Qaren or go into Qarentine. Beakybird Jun 2020 #7

That's I suppose a fair compromise mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #14

Where's the option for... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #9

"Karen" is a bigoted white woman. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #10

Bigoted white men are just bigoted white men whathehell Jun 2020 #39

Donald sounds like a good name for them. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #46

There you go. whathehell Jun 2020 #59

I think it's unkind to burden every Karen with this unneccessary baggage. I know.... EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #12

Years have passed with absolutely no defense for... lame54 Jun 2020 #24

Your use of the word "fuck" for emphasis tells me a lot about you. EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #64

How were those used? treestar Jun 2020 #65

Why are you pretending not to know any of these? lame54 Jun 2020 #67

Why did you ignore my point? treestar Jun 2020 #68

My response is ... mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #13

women aren't a historically persecuted people? dsc Jun 2020 #33

Of course they are. But 'Karen' is not and never was a generic word for women ... mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #36

It isn't being applied to men dsc Jun 2020 #40

If we started calling racist men 'Karen' that would be even worse, wouldn't it? mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #45

I like "Donald" jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #48

Sounds great! If we all start generically calling racist dudes caught on video mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #52

works for me. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #53

really you are going with there are no viral videos of racist rants by males? dsc Jun 2020 #54

Not what I said ... mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #55

I don't Kare n I think this is a silly hill to stake out a claim on Kali Jun 2020 #15

Nice fishing expedition... LanternWaste Jun 2020 #16

My first name is Richard and I go by Dick, get over it. RGinNJ Jun 2020 #17

Being a Dick is your own choice. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #41

Maybe I'll start using it when there is a "Kevin". JenniferJuniper Jun 2020 #18

There is, actually. spicysista Jun 2020 #25

Biff StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #38

Oh, I forgot about that one! spicysista Jun 2020 #42

Nice poll, Karen... hunter Jun 2020 #19

Complaigning about the term "Karen" edhopper Jun 2020 #21

As long as I can call Trump "Bunker Bitch" I'm good. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #27

Why are you correlating "Hillary primary voters" and "Karens?" Squinch Jun 2020 #28

Not my poll jcgoldie Jun 2020 #31

a comment I saw earlier Kaleva Jun 2020 #32

I can see the problem with the Karen name. It is yet another derogatory term Squinch Jun 2020 #43

I voted for Hilary, if that concerns you. I have the badges and bumper stickers. hunter Jun 2020 #57

Why would anyone alert on your post? Kaleva Jun 2020 #62

I oppose it. Use the word for it. Racist. boston bean Jun 2020 #35

+1 LizBeth Jun 2020 #49

My wife's name is Karen texasfiddler Jun 2020 #50

This is why we need to STOP using it!!! nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #71

DU went through this nonsense last year with "wypipo" rictofen Jun 2020 #51

I missed the "wipipo" discussion last year. I'm glad I missed it. EarnestPutz Jun 2020 #66

Wypipo was fun LeftInTX Jun 2020 #70

Where's the option for "I would like to speak to your manager"? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2020 #60

Some of the Karen-mongers Steelrolled Jun 2020 #63

I propose a new meme, "Ivanka" LeftInTX Jun 2020 #69

Oops, had to undo my vote. In '16 I voted for Bernie in the primary. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #72