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In reply to the discussion: Bill Maher absolutely says why 72 million voted for Trump........... [View all]marlakay
(11,616 posts)123. I just hope it doesn't take more losses
In the senate and house to wake us up to our real problems and issues.
Everyone seems to disagree with what they are depending on whether they are progressive or moderate. We have to find a way to communicate within our party or its going to eventually split us up.
As far as I know this is the best forum but any type of negativity towards dems is frowned upon here so I never share those thoughts. I wonder how many others might have good ideas to fix problems that also keep quiet?
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If I understand you, I agree. It's not a good idea to describe everyone in a group the same way. n
LAS14
Nov 2020
#113
I have boiled it down to this; one group believes dems will take their guns
yankeepants
Nov 2020
#52
I think the one big thing we can do to over come it is to court the youth vote
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#25
Amen! More common sense from Bill Maher than I hear from half the Democrats I know.
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2020
#48
Is there a Democratic website that is more in line with our thinking? I find here
doc03
Nov 2020
#68
So you say the Democratic party doesn't have any common sense in it?
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#71
Right, so it was a waste of time. Nothing to do with how people vote.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#99
If there were no counter-protesters, the message would be "everyone agrees with Trump"
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#104
Been said forever that Dems/Libs look inside for root causes, wingnuts look outside blaming others.
UTUSN
Nov 2020
#107
I somewhat agree with his point, but disagree that Dems didn't win bigger entirely BECAUSE of that.
coti
Nov 2020
#89
I find myself agreeing with him quite often. What does that make me? nt
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2020
#26
Yes..typical armchair politician. Lots of stories...NO ideas or solutions
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#27
I see we've already found a topic for the post-Trump DU to shout and scream about. nt
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2020
#33
Maher is right. His argument is 'common sense'. 'Defund the police' defies common sense.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#6
64% oppose the Defund movement. That's the middle that largely determine winners.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#19
Show me the Democrat or Democratic platform that called for Defunding the Police.
Yavin4
Nov 2020
#21
Platform? That's a real vote bloc mover. Lot of politics is about who doesn't like who.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#30
Exactly...the pukes pushed that..not us. uneducated voters that would not have voted dem anyway
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#32
Maher, and many others, have made the point of dismissing 48% of voters - and
empedocles
Nov 2020
#45
Specifically, she wanted a decrease in the NYC police budget from $6bn to $5bn
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#75
Which would mean Maher and the DUers who agree with him are wrong.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#91
It doesn't matter that we de-emphasized it and refined its meaning to something sensible.
gulliver
Nov 2020
#106
It wasn't the Dems pushing it. It was an unfortunate statement, the right grabbed hold of that
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#13
It's largely that they don't care if it fucks the Democratic Party, all the better if it does. This
OnDoutside
Nov 2020
#65
Thinking that every election loss is always our fault or something we said or didn't say leads to...
Yavin4
Nov 2020
#34
THIS. And then when we win it's the same damn criticism. "Oh noes! Dems almost lost!"
ancianita
Nov 2020
#41
I don't think he's right entirely. I thought it assumed that we're the party of every single
In It to Win It
Nov 2020
#60
When Maher has ppl the likes of Steve bannon on and gives him a platform to spout lies
Thekaspervote
Nov 2020
#42
In typical Maher fashion, he goes a little overboard, but the totality of his point is correct.
Drunken Irishman
Nov 2020
#46
For me, it wasn't defending looting, but observing that white people seem to care more about
shrike3
Nov 2020
#116
One thing that Maher consistently does is conflate, the culture war narrative.
Caliman73
Nov 2020
#55
Some people here like to say this and that about Maher. We could all do that.
empedocles
Nov 2020
#62
I won't pretend to know what all Democrats have said or not said on the 'Defund' issue
In It to Win It
Nov 2020
#70
That was one part of his argument. Which you obviously agree with since you keep harping on it.
Caliman73
Nov 2020
#88
my brother is a republicam. he hates trump, but voted for him, because RRRRRRR. BUT!
pansypoo53219
Nov 2020
#66
When you see the Hegelian dialectic being dispensed of on college campuses
misanthrope
Nov 2020
#120
I always overestimate the intelligence of electorate and always wind up disappointed
MustLoveBeagles
Nov 2020
#87
Maher, and others, forget that there has been a demonization of Democrats since I was young
shrike3
Nov 2020
#117
Democrats need to remember that they are both a ruling party and an opposition party
Klaralven
Nov 2020
#109
The "strategy vs morality" argument will always be there. One is pointless w/o the other.
lindysalsagal
Nov 2020
#110
He donated 3 million dollars to get Democrats elected, Obama's reelection campaign and 2018
betsuni
Nov 2020
#129
No , everything that has happened in the last few years and even for last decades shows this isn't
JI7
Nov 2020
#131
Good news, everyone! Scott Atlas has told the people to "rise up", so the Republicans have lost.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2020
#128
Exactly. Republicans can get away with the craziest bullshit and never have to pay a price
Yavin4
Nov 2020
#141