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Coventina

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20. Because men have the right to autonomy over their bodies and women don't.

Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:20 PM

Dec 2021

As is evidenced by the very fact that this case is even happening.

Hope that clarifies things for you, but please feel free to ask further questions if you still are not clear about the problem.

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Men of DU: What are YOU going to do for women, once we drop to third class citizens? [View all] Coventina Dec 2021 OP

I'm already a regular donor to Planned Parenthood, but I would absolutely bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #1

Those organizations currently exist, so you can donate now if you wish. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #4

How about pushing your congress to decriminalize abortion period. Bev54 Dec 2021 #77

Excellent idea Bev. KS Toronado Dec 2021 #111

:) Very responsible and generous, but the women the OP describes Hortensis Dec 2021 #116

Good question. DURHAM D Dec 2021 #2

I'm going to carry on treating women in the best way possible. Doodley Dec 2021 #3

The Men of DU aren't the problem nini Dec 2021 #5

I'm not saying they are the problem. I'm asking for ACTION. Coventina Dec 2021 #6

Please see my post way at the end. Occulus Dec 2021 #192

Or inthewind21 Dec 2021 #15

That 😔🤬 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #22

And 2004 . . . and 2000 . . . NBachers Dec 2021 #124

I don't remember 2004 much re: third party... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #135

This Shows That Elections Have Consequences COL Mustard Dec 2021 #156

Culprits in this order: white men, white women radius777 Dec 2021 #170

K&R musette_sf Dec 2021 #7

We will be voting against republicans. And we should all, men and women... brush Dec 2021 #8

I'm already donating to NARAL and Planned Parenthood. Dale in Laurel MD Dec 2021 #9

Blame the GOP and not myself. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #10

I'm not asking you to blame yourself. I'm asking what you will do Coventina Dec 2021 #11

Assuming Roe is overturned... PTWB Dec 2021 #132

Yeah, I'm a woman and I'm not getting this OP. At best it's divisive, and at worst, accusatory. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #12

Please feel free to alert. Coventina Dec 2021 #14

Has the Supreme Court made a decision? BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #17

It's believed that they will allow the Missippi abortion ruling to stand iemanja Dec 2021 #59

I'm sure it felt righteous in the OP's mind. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #21

Again, please feel free to alert if you feel this thread violates the TOS. eom. Coventina Dec 2021 #25

Everyone here is unhappy about what's happening. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #33

All I'm asking is what are liberal men willing to do? Coventina Dec 2021 #37

Your tone is accusatory. There's no reason that men here should have to explain to you what they BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #42

You're more concenred with her "tone" iemanja Dec 2021 #62

Nope. I'm a woman, and I'm concerned. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #65

We're faced with a Scotus decision that will permanently reduce iemanja Dec 2021 #69

I'm not chattel, but thanks. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #70

So you're comfortable with Mississippi's abortion law? iemanja Dec 2021 #74

Nice try. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #78

Agree entirely with your posts, BlackSkimmer. Hortensis Dec 2021 #123

I hear ya! BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #136

Yes. Must watch the tone. boston bean Dec 2021 #178

It doesn't and I wouldn't anyway. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #84

I am not sure the post is alert-worthy Gore1FL Dec 2021 #118

Right now people esp Women are in serious pain... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #36

The OP didn't blame you. nt. Mariana Dec 2021 #41

Continue to work to elect Democrats to office. MineralMan Dec 2021 #13

👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #38

+1000 Ding ding FakeNoose Dec 2021 #58

I Vote Every Election (Primary and General) modrepub Dec 2021 #16

Well, it won't impact your male children phylny Dec 2021 #115

Yea modrepub Dec 2021 #140

Why 'men of DU'? TeslaNova Dec 2021 #18

Because men have the right to autonomy over their bodies and women don't. Coventina Dec 2021 #20

Lame TeslaNova Dec 2021 #26

Very curious that you feel a need to deflect blame, when all I asked for is ACTION. Coventina Dec 2021 #29

Even more curious you seem to blame every man alive TeslaNova Dec 2021 #44

She's certainly not blaming DU men. Crazy interpretation. It's a call to action, looking for JudyM Dec 2021 #110

👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #128

I agree that is how it looks. Very aggressive and singling men out. Weird is a good word choice. Doodley Dec 2021 #161

I don't get the push-back you're receiving. Torchlight Dec 2021 #54

If I were a man I'd respect what you say you mean enough to give a thoughtful, honest answer. ancianita Dec 2021 #130

With Covid & 1/6 - I'd FORGOTTEN (bc I just looked it up) that THIS Year a Federal Judge... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #143

BUT. What 35 states already ratified cannot be overruled because of two events. ancianita Dec 2021 #144

My initial internal reaction was 'well, that's -one- judge'... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #149

Sure. After the John Lewis or For The People Act pass, the ERA should be our next push. ancianita Dec 2021 #152

Thanks for the reminder on Voting Rights Acts! Time for more Free Congress phone calls electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #154

What would you like us to do? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #179

The OP didn't even hint that the men of DU created this. nt. Mariana Dec 2021 #45

No, she isn't iemanja Dec 2021 #67

I'm a woman and even I'm like.. JuJuChen Dec 2021 #19

Got it. Women should sit down and shut up about the Patriarchy. Coventina Dec 2021 #23

I didn't really read your initial post as "asking for help." MineralMan Dec 2021 #50

It was meant to be a call for action. Coventina Dec 2021 #61

As you can see above, I did respond in that way. MineralMan Dec 2021 #76

You seem to be in the minority. Coventina Dec 2021 #79

Most of the men on DU actively support women's right to choose. MineralMan Dec 2021 #87

I'm not questioning the "pro-choice" stance of men on this board. Coventina Dec 2021 #93

Thank you for being an escort... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #104

Most of the women I escorted into a PP clinic MineralMan Dec 2021 #107

Yes, they certainly would... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #126

It's a surprising post. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #35

Vote? BradAllison Dec 2021 #24

Unreal. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #27

Please feel free to alert if you are so offended. eom. Coventina Dec 2021 #34

Oh please. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #39

It's dumb to ask liberal men what they will do? On a DEMOCRATIC board? Coventina Dec 2021 #48

Yeah. It is. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #55

You could at least acknowledge that women have the right to be angry. Coventina Dec 2021 #73

When did I acknowledge that I don't believe that? CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #108

What are YOU doing? You admit yourself how much time you're spending on this thread. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #100

Here are some ideas for men who are stumped by the question. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #28

👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #49

Apparently some prefer to be offended that the OP even asked the question. Mariana Dec 2021 #52

Thank you Solly Mack Dec 2021 #64

Thank you. nt iemanja Dec 2021 #81

Thank you!!!! Coventina Dec 2021 #82

+++ hlthe2b Dec 2021 #99

Well sure. But why is there an assumption this isn't happening? nt Gore1FL Dec 2021 #120

I didn't see that assumption in the OP, and simply provided some suggestions for men who want to WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #127

I'm not sure the assuming that the men of DU need suggestions is helpful to vibe of this thread. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #131

I would be very surprised to learn that even the majority of men on DU were working to dismantle WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #141

I would be, too. ancianita Dec 2021 #151

quite obviously we don't all agree iemanja Dec 2021 #165

I doubt that's true of DUers in general. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #169

case in point iemanja Dec 2021 #181

No. She already has my support. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #182

Treat them with respect and as equals, same as I do today Amishman Dec 2021 #30

With all due respect genxlib Dec 2021 #31

I never said you were my enemy. I'm merely asking what are you willing to do? Coventina Dec 2021 #40

I got the point of your OP, but you weren't "merely asking." Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #72

OK, fine. Then I'm DEMANDING that liberal men take action. Coventina Dec 2021 #75

You didn't hurt my feelings. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #89

Maybe we're talking past each other, so I'll try to explain. Coventina Dec 2021 #96

Many liberal men have been taking action for decades. TwilightZone Dec 2021 #92

"tone" iemanja Dec 2021 #83

I teach English and it's a pretty common word to describe something in writing. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #90

the better option iemanja Dec 2021 #153

This. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #46

Yup. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #47

Ima' 'man up' and accept the blame GusBob Dec 2021 #32

Never asked you to take blame. Just asked what you will do. Coventina Dec 2021 #43

Shit, hegemony hates being questioned. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #51

What do you propose we do? TomSlick Dec 2021 #53

Thank you. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #56

WhiskeyGrinder posted some good suggestions in #28. nt. Mariana Dec 2021 #57

I agree. However, the original poster did not endorse those suggestions. TomSlick Dec 2021 #68

Oh I'm so sorry I didn't personally endorse those suggestions. Coventina Dec 2021 #80

Cool. TomSlick Dec 2021 #150

She thanked him iemanja Dec 2021 #166

She did after my question. TomSlick Dec 2021 #184

Voting and contributing to candidates are the bare-ass minimum. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #88

Now you know the answer, Coventina. Mariana Dec 2021 #60

It's un-fucking-believable. Coventina Dec 2021 #63

It is, I'm afraid, iemanja Dec 2021 #71

"Patriarchy" huh? GusBob Dec 2021 #97

This issue is far too big, serious, and consequential to allow "hurt feelings" to rule response. hlthe2b Dec 2021 #101

It sure is Red Mountain Dec 2021 #147

word. KG Dec 2021 #95

every little thing I can bigtree Dec 2021 #66

So... Some do not feel this is a legit question... Ohio Joe Dec 2021 #85

First: Thank you! Coventina Dec 2021 #86

Thank you for being an escort, too... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #146

First of all, Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #91

I would hope most men would agree with you, just as I don't take offense when action re: race hlthe2b Dec 2021 #94

Whatever I'm asked to do...n/t bluecollar2 Dec 2021 #98

I don't think we can adopt the Republican "Second Amendment" approach DFW Dec 2021 #102

Getting an AR15 isn't an option for me. Kaleva Dec 2021 #106

If I remember my history correctly... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #133

I will continue to vote Dem as part of a minority group that does so at a higher % than women. nt LexVegas Dec 2021 #103

Geez Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #105

"Citizens?" More like "talking domestic livestock." n/t TygrBright Dec 2021 #109

When we were pulling out of Afghanistan... brooklynite Dec 2021 #112

Clearly, men on DU think they're doing QUITE ENOUGH. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #113

The question in the OP was "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?', not "What else are you going to do?" Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #138

Okay. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #142

this is very much like white fragility iemanja Dec 2021 #167

It's embarrassing to see Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #171

My, my, my... you certainly have gotten quite the response from a handful. demmiblue Dec 2021 #114

First, be as pissed off as you are. Second attend public rallies and protests to make politicians Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #117

The day that people keep talking about taking action is here. ck4829 Dec 2021 #119

I'll do what I always do. OldYog Dec 2021 #121

Everything I possibly can, & I place no limits on that. CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #122

The division between men and women you are suggesting in your post is pretty superficial Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #125

Really. The "suggested division" is not "pretty superficial." ancianita Dec 2021 #158

There is nothing I want to prove to an opinionated woman. Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #163

lol Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #172

I find certain matters worthy of discussion. Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #175

Women outnumber men 51 to 49% DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #129

You know full well iemanja Dec 2021 #164

No, it's based on math DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #174

Your voodoo math is flawed iemanja Dec 2021 #180

But not enough do DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #183

This is really an unfortunate post. You're aiming at the wrong target. Stinky The Clown Dec 2021 #134

Thank you for helping your friends electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #155

👍👏👏👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Dec 2021 #137

Being of an age where I have learned to live peacefully 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #139

I'm not a third class citizen. I'm not a second class citizen. I'm not a victim. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #145

I don't think my behavior will change in any way. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #148

Same thing we all need to do. PatrickforB Dec 2021 #157

Do our actions have to produce noticeable positive results or does non-productive behavior count? Kaleva Dec 2021 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Dec 2021 #160

My wife just asked why you would ask this of me and not her. What should I tell her? Doodley Dec 2021 #162

A good start Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #173

She just spoke for herself. She spoke to her husband. Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #176

Thank you for saying that. That poster was extremely rude and seemed to expect me to tell Doodley Dec 2021 #188

She has no desire to post on a message board, and isn't for me to tell her what she should or Doodley Dec 2021 #187

Keep voting Democrat Polybius Dec 2021 #168

Gotta love all the offended folks on this thread róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #177

Sorry to be a male, but explain how I benefit if my wife or my daughter are denied their rights? Doodley Dec 2021 #189

It's not about only this. róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #190

Now you say it isn't about me, but you made it clear it is about me and other men on DU. You wrote: Doodley Dec 2021 #193

Yeah... róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #194

I'll do anything I can to help SunImp Dec 2021 #185

Elect more Democrats. jalan48 Dec 2021 #186

Here's a nasty response I bet you haven't seen yet. I'm going to be pointing out that Occulus Dec 2021 #191