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electric_blue68

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133. If I remember my history correctly...

Wed Dec 1, 2021, 05:08 PM

Dec 2021

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after Goldwater's resounding defeat in '64 (I was 11), the Republicans licked their wounds for a while.

Then, they quadrupled down as you suggested for these times and ran for every little nook, and cranny office, and higher, and higher till we got Reagan, etc

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Men of DU: What are YOU going to do for women, once we drop to third class citizens? [View all] Coventina Dec 2021 OP

I'm already a regular donor to Planned Parenthood, but I would absolutely bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #1

Those organizations currently exist, so you can donate now if you wish. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #4

How about pushing your congress to decriminalize abortion period. Bev54 Dec 2021 #77

Excellent idea Bev. KS Toronado Dec 2021 #111

:) Very responsible and generous, but the women the OP describes Hortensis Dec 2021 #116

Good question. DURHAM D Dec 2021 #2

I'm going to carry on treating women in the best way possible. Doodley Dec 2021 #3

The Men of DU aren't the problem nini Dec 2021 #5

I'm not saying they are the problem. I'm asking for ACTION. Coventina Dec 2021 #6

Please see my post way at the end. Occulus Dec 2021 #192

Or inthewind21 Dec 2021 #15

That 😔🤬 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #22

And 2004 . . . and 2000 . . . NBachers Dec 2021 #124

I don't remember 2004 much re: third party... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #135

This Shows That Elections Have Consequences COL Mustard Dec 2021 #156

Culprits in this order: white men, white women radius777 Dec 2021 #170

K&R musette_sf Dec 2021 #7

We will be voting against republicans. And we should all, men and women... brush Dec 2021 #8

I'm already donating to NARAL and Planned Parenthood. Dale in Laurel MD Dec 2021 #9

Blame the GOP and not myself. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #10

I'm not asking you to blame yourself. I'm asking what you will do Coventina Dec 2021 #11

Assuming Roe is overturned... PTWB Dec 2021 #132

Yeah, I'm a woman and I'm not getting this OP. At best it's divisive, and at worst, accusatory. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #12

Please feel free to alert. Coventina Dec 2021 #14

Has the Supreme Court made a decision? BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #17

It's believed that they will allow the Missippi abortion ruling to stand iemanja Dec 2021 #59

I'm sure it felt righteous in the OP's mind. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #21

Again, please feel free to alert if you feel this thread violates the TOS. eom. Coventina Dec 2021 #25

Everyone here is unhappy about what's happening. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #33

All I'm asking is what are liberal men willing to do? Coventina Dec 2021 #37

Your tone is accusatory. There's no reason that men here should have to explain to you what they BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #42

You're more concenred with her "tone" iemanja Dec 2021 #62

Nope. I'm a woman, and I'm concerned. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #65

We're faced with a Scotus decision that will permanently reduce iemanja Dec 2021 #69

I'm not chattel, but thanks. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #70

So you're comfortable with Mississippi's abortion law? iemanja Dec 2021 #74

Nice try. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #78

Agree entirely with your posts, BlackSkimmer. Hortensis Dec 2021 #123

I hear ya! BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #136

Yes. Must watch the tone. boston bean Dec 2021 #178

It doesn't and I wouldn't anyway. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #84

I am not sure the post is alert-worthy Gore1FL Dec 2021 #118

Right now people esp Women are in serious pain... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #36

The OP didn't blame you. nt. Mariana Dec 2021 #41

Continue to work to elect Democrats to office. MineralMan Dec 2021 #13

👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #38

+1000 Ding ding FakeNoose Dec 2021 #58

I Vote Every Election (Primary and General) modrepub Dec 2021 #16

Well, it won't impact your male children phylny Dec 2021 #115

Yea modrepub Dec 2021 #140

Why 'men of DU'? TeslaNova Dec 2021 #18

Because men have the right to autonomy over their bodies and women don't. Coventina Dec 2021 #20

Lame TeslaNova Dec 2021 #26

Very curious that you feel a need to deflect blame, when all I asked for is ACTION. Coventina Dec 2021 #29

Even more curious you seem to blame every man alive TeslaNova Dec 2021 #44

She's certainly not blaming DU men. Crazy interpretation. It's a call to action, looking for JudyM Dec 2021 #110

👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #128

I agree that is how it looks. Very aggressive and singling men out. Weird is a good word choice. Doodley Dec 2021 #161

I don't get the push-back you're receiving. Torchlight Dec 2021 #54

If I were a man I'd respect what you say you mean enough to give a thoughtful, honest answer. ancianita Dec 2021 #130

With Covid & 1/6 - I'd FORGOTTEN (bc I just looked it up) that THIS Year a Federal Judge... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #143

BUT. What 35 states already ratified cannot be overruled because of two events. ancianita Dec 2021 #144

My initial internal reaction was 'well, that's -one- judge'... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #149

Sure. After the John Lewis or For The People Act pass, the ERA should be our next push. ancianita Dec 2021 #152

Thanks for the reminder on Voting Rights Acts! Time for more Free Congress phone calls electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #154

What would you like us to do? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #179

The OP didn't even hint that the men of DU created this. nt. Mariana Dec 2021 #45

No, she isn't iemanja Dec 2021 #67

I'm a woman and even I'm like.. JuJuChen Dec 2021 #19

Got it. Women should sit down and shut up about the Patriarchy. Coventina Dec 2021 #23

I didn't really read your initial post as "asking for help." MineralMan Dec 2021 #50

It was meant to be a call for action. Coventina Dec 2021 #61

As you can see above, I did respond in that way. MineralMan Dec 2021 #76

You seem to be in the minority. Coventina Dec 2021 #79

Most of the men on DU actively support women's right to choose. MineralMan Dec 2021 #87

I'm not questioning the "pro-choice" stance of men on this board. Coventina Dec 2021 #93

Thank you for being an escort... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #104

Most of the women I escorted into a PP clinic MineralMan Dec 2021 #107

Yes, they certainly would... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #126

It's a surprising post. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #35

Vote? BradAllison Dec 2021 #24

Unreal. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #27

Please feel free to alert if you are so offended. eom. Coventina Dec 2021 #34

Oh please. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #39

It's dumb to ask liberal men what they will do? On a DEMOCRATIC board? Coventina Dec 2021 #48

Yeah. It is. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #55

You could at least acknowledge that women have the right to be angry. Coventina Dec 2021 #73

When did I acknowledge that I don't believe that? CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #108

What are YOU doing? You admit yourself how much time you're spending on this thread. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #100

Here are some ideas for men who are stumped by the question. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #28

👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #49

Apparently some prefer to be offended that the OP even asked the question. Mariana Dec 2021 #52

Thank you Solly Mack Dec 2021 #64

Thank you. nt iemanja Dec 2021 #81

Thank you!!!! Coventina Dec 2021 #82

+++ hlthe2b Dec 2021 #99

Well sure. But why is there an assumption this isn't happening? nt Gore1FL Dec 2021 #120

I didn't see that assumption in the OP, and simply provided some suggestions for men who want to WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #127

I'm not sure the assuming that the men of DU need suggestions is helpful to vibe of this thread. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #131

I would be very surprised to learn that even the majority of men on DU were working to dismantle WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #141

I would be, too. ancianita Dec 2021 #151

quite obviously we don't all agree iemanja Dec 2021 #165

I doubt that's true of DUers in general. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #169

case in point iemanja Dec 2021 #181

No. She already has my support. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #182

Treat them with respect and as equals, same as I do today Amishman Dec 2021 #30

With all due respect genxlib Dec 2021 #31

I never said you were my enemy. I'm merely asking what are you willing to do? Coventina Dec 2021 #40

I got the point of your OP, but you weren't "merely asking." Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #72

OK, fine. Then I'm DEMANDING that liberal men take action. Coventina Dec 2021 #75

You didn't hurt my feelings. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #89

Maybe we're talking past each other, so I'll try to explain. Coventina Dec 2021 #96

Many liberal men have been taking action for decades. TwilightZone Dec 2021 #92

"tone" iemanja Dec 2021 #83

I teach English and it's a pretty common word to describe something in writing. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #90

the better option iemanja Dec 2021 #153

This. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #46

Yup. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #47

Ima' 'man up' and accept the blame GusBob Dec 2021 #32

Never asked you to take blame. Just asked what you will do. Coventina Dec 2021 #43

Shit, hegemony hates being questioned. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #51

What do you propose we do? TomSlick Dec 2021 #53

Thank you. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #56

WhiskeyGrinder posted some good suggestions in #28. nt. Mariana Dec 2021 #57

I agree. However, the original poster did not endorse those suggestions. TomSlick Dec 2021 #68

Oh I'm so sorry I didn't personally endorse those suggestions. Coventina Dec 2021 #80

Cool. TomSlick Dec 2021 #150

She thanked him iemanja Dec 2021 #166

She did after my question. TomSlick Dec 2021 #184

Voting and contributing to candidates are the bare-ass minimum. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #88

Now you know the answer, Coventina. Mariana Dec 2021 #60

It's un-fucking-believable. Coventina Dec 2021 #63

It is, I'm afraid, iemanja Dec 2021 #71

"Patriarchy" huh? GusBob Dec 2021 #97

This issue is far too big, serious, and consequential to allow "hurt feelings" to rule response. hlthe2b Dec 2021 #101

It sure is Red Mountain Dec 2021 #147

word. KG Dec 2021 #95

every little thing I can bigtree Dec 2021 #66

So... Some do not feel this is a legit question... Ohio Joe Dec 2021 #85

First: Thank you! Coventina Dec 2021 #86

Thank you for being an escort, too... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #146

First of all, Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #91

I would hope most men would agree with you, just as I don't take offense when action re: race hlthe2b Dec 2021 #94

Whatever I'm asked to do...n/t bluecollar2 Dec 2021 #98

I don't think we can adopt the Republican "Second Amendment" approach DFW Dec 2021 #102

Getting an AR15 isn't an option for me. Kaleva Dec 2021 #106

If I remember my history correctly... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #133

I will continue to vote Dem as part of a minority group that does so at a higher % than women. nt LexVegas Dec 2021 #103

Geez Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #105

"Citizens?" More like "talking domestic livestock." n/t TygrBright Dec 2021 #109

When we were pulling out of Afghanistan... brooklynite Dec 2021 #112

Clearly, men on DU think they're doing QUITE ENOUGH. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #113

The question in the OP was "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?', not "What else are you going to do?" Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #138

Okay. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #142

this is very much like white fragility iemanja Dec 2021 #167

It's embarrassing to see Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #171

My, my, my... you certainly have gotten quite the response from a handful. demmiblue Dec 2021 #114

First, be as pissed off as you are. Second attend public rallies and protests to make politicians Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #117

The day that people keep talking about taking action is here. ck4829 Dec 2021 #119

I'll do what I always do. OldYog Dec 2021 #121

Everything I possibly can, & I place no limits on that. CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #122

The division between men and women you are suggesting in your post is pretty superficial Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #125

Really. The "suggested division" is not "pretty superficial." ancianita Dec 2021 #158

There is nothing I want to prove to an opinionated woman. Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #163

lol Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #172

I find certain matters worthy of discussion. Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #175

Women outnumber men 51 to 49% DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #129

You know full well iemanja Dec 2021 #164

No, it's based on math DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #174

Your voodoo math is flawed iemanja Dec 2021 #180

But not enough do DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #183

This is really an unfortunate post. You're aiming at the wrong target. Stinky The Clown Dec 2021 #134

Thank you for helping your friends electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #155

👍👏👏👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Dec 2021 #137

Being of an age where I have learned to live peacefully 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #139

I'm not a third class citizen. I'm not a second class citizen. I'm not a victim. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #145

I don't think my behavior will change in any way. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #148

Same thing we all need to do. PatrickforB Dec 2021 #157

Do our actions have to produce noticeable positive results or does non-productive behavior count? Kaleva Dec 2021 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Dec 2021 #160

My wife just asked why you would ask this of me and not her. What should I tell her? Doodley Dec 2021 #162

A good start Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #173

She just spoke for herself. She spoke to her husband. Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #176

Thank you for saying that. That poster was extremely rude and seemed to expect me to tell Doodley Dec 2021 #188

She has no desire to post on a message board, and isn't for me to tell her what she should or Doodley Dec 2021 #187

Keep voting Democrat Polybius Dec 2021 #168

Gotta love all the offended folks on this thread róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #177

Sorry to be a male, but explain how I benefit if my wife or my daughter are denied their rights? Doodley Dec 2021 #189

It's not about only this. róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #190

Now you say it isn't about me, but you made it clear it is about me and other men on DU. You wrote: Doodley Dec 2021 #193

Yeah... róisín_dubh Dec 2021 #194

I'll do anything I can to help SunImp Dec 2021 #185

Elect more Democrats. jalan48 Dec 2021 #186

Here's a nasty response I bet you haven't seen yet. I'm going to be pointing out that Occulus Dec 2021 #191