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33. The articles make clear that the fake slates were being sent to Washington
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:34 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Tue Jan 18, 2022, 02:22 AM - Edit history (1)

and contradicts the assumption that the playacting electors weren't actually planning to do anything with the results of the fake votes.

Now, it appears you want to draw a distinction based on the fact that the articles refer to the fake slates having been sent to "Congress" not the Archives. I could respond by posting links to any number of articles that describe the legitimate slates as having been sent to "Congress" rather than specifically to the Archives.

But, in any event, here's one of several articles I could post from December that specifically refers to the Arizona fake slate having been sent to the Archives.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/14/arizona-groups-fake-electors-try-cast-11-electoral-votes-trump/6536056002/

And here's a portion of a legal brief filed by the Trump campaign in December 2020 that refers to the Wisconsin slate having been sent to "Washington".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo_ZxT7XUAIXtZp?format=png&name=medium

And then there's the January 5 article that describes the fact that, in response to a FOIA request, the Archives had provided NBC with information about several alternate slates that the Archives had received.(Not a very secretive effort if NBC knew enough to make a FOIA request).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-leans-harder-pence-flip-election-results-n1252849

Finally, there are the stories about how Rachel Maddow recently "uncovered" the fake certificates. Which must come as a bit of a surprise to the organization that (apparently not drawing the distinction you are about news reports saying the slates were being sent to "Congress" or "Washington", obtained (via a FOIA request directed to the Archives) and published those very same certificates more than nine months ago. https://www.americanoversight.org/american-oversight-obtains-seven-phony-certificates-of-pro-trump-electors

I'm not saying that the fake slates aren't a big deal or that the perpetrators of them shouldn't be prosecuted. Just that it wasn't as if anyone was keeping it a big secret until last week.

No doubt. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #1
I've been thinking... agingdem Jan 2022 #32
I wonder if he called Cheney? maxsolomon Jan 2022 #49
Don't think he would have called Cheney.. agingdem Jan 2022 #50
Subpoena Dan Quayle blm Jan 2022 #2
Oops. Gee, Mike. Maybe Dan Quayle could have helped you with this thing too. crickets Jan 2022 #3
Rt TY Fly guy is a sniveling Traitor. Cha Jan 2022 #4
Getting closer to the top o' the ladder empedocles Jan 2022 #5
Why do people treat this like some big reveal? brooklynite Jan 2022 #6
Possibly because it's getting some serious traction now? bluesbassman Jan 2022 #18
Could there be a difference? dpibel Jan 2022 #20
You are correct, this is news now, that they committed crimes has been revealed. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #21
Here you go: lots of reporting back in December and January onenote Jan 2022 #28
Thank you for supporting my point! dpibel Jan 2022 #29
The articles make clear that the fake slates were being sent to Washington onenote Jan 2022 #33
So the news then is a state AG has been near dropping indictments and the feds are investigating. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #34
It's old news the the Trump WH was coordinating this Kaleva Jan 2022 #43
Stunning how many of the electors also were involved in the frivolous lawsuits. nt crickets Jan 2022 #51
Give them more shovels. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #52
There was much coverage of the fake votes being sent to Washington Kaleva Jan 2022 #42
Potted Plant Portends Plotted Supplant Blue Owl Jan 2022 #7
LOL FalloutShelter Jan 2022 #9
DU'zy Bristlecone Jan 2022 #10
POW!!! Picture-Perfect! calimary Jan 2022 #14
Loves me some alliteration ! nt Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #35
Such a scaredy boy. milestogo Jan 2022 #8
My opinion of Dan Quayle BITD was that he couldn't find his ass with both hands. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2022 #11
Wasn't Dan Quayle on the right side on this ? JI7 Jan 2022 #15
Well, they are both from IN, and alumni of the same law school. Maybe friends? niyad Jan 2022 #27
You beat me to it. GOP Hoosier politicians. Quayle may have "mentored" Pence over time. Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #36
I Read The Other Day... GB_RN Jan 2022 #12
All Mike Pence cares about at this point is whether, and how, to win the White House for himself. calimary Jan 2022 #13
Would a moral man have had to ask others if he get away with using the fake electors.... Thomas Hurt Jan 2022 #16
DOJ knew about it a year ago also. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #17
So did most everyone here at DU as it was widely reported. Kaleva Jan 2022 #41
Yes he did know, and ultimately he did things to stop the faked electors being counted. Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #19
Sorry behind on this topic. But when people say "forged and plagiarized" Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #22
Yes. They were signed by the real gop electors Takket Jan 2022 #24
Thanks T Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #31
As they weren't certified by the state, they weren't real electors. Kaleva Jan 2022 #38
They were the chosen gop electors had drumpf won Takket Jan 2022 #44
I wonder that as they used there own names, was any forgery committed? Kaleva Jan 2022 #45
That would depend on how forgery is defined in the relevant statutes. onenote Jan 2022 #26
I stand corrected thanks ! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #30
They weren't the real electors though Kaleva Jan 2022 #40
EVERYONE knew about it. It was widely reported on back in December. onenote Jan 2022 #23
I'm baffled by how people are now excited about year old news that was common knowledge Kaleva Jan 2022 #39
Mike Pence also knew of Russia putting TFG into office in 2016 too. Botany Jan 2022 #25
It was widely reported and much discussed here at DU back in 12/20 so most everyone knew Kaleva Jan 2022 #37
Rachel's blowing this wide open. Every day she comes up with something new. Vinca Jan 2022 #46
The story was blown wide open over a year ago. Kaleva Jan 2022 #47
Safe to say that this isn't 'news' per se, as it was widely reported by the MSM at the time Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #48
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