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grantcart

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Sun Oct 16, 2022, 12:34 AM Oct 2022

Old Russian Parable [View all]

How to explain something that has been endemic to the Russian soul and seems to be guiding Russian decision making for the last 103 years as Russia has made one morbidly bad decision after another?

During my first day of Russian history the Professor, who was an expert on Soviet history and worked at the DIA, told this parable. He said, "Whenever you read something about Russian or Soviet history that appears to make no sense remember this parable and it will become clear



Two Russian peasants lived next to each other on identical plots in the desolate Russian steppes.

Everything that the two Russians had mirrored each other. Their ramshackle hut, their pathetic potato garden, their outside latrine, all identical except one had a miserable goat that provided a little milk that the one peasant made into cheese which he shared with his neighbor.

One day the other peasant was foraging for mushrooms when he found an ancient lantern. He took out the lantern and polished it up and a Genie appeared and told him, "I have been trapped in that lantern for more than a thousand years and for giving me my freedom you will get one wish." The peasant was quiet and said, "If I only get one wish then I want to make sure that it is the right one, please come back tomorrow and I will tell you my wish".

Exactly at noon the Genie returns and the peasant says, "I know my deepest desire. This is my wish. Do you see my neighbor tending his potato garden?"

"Yes", says the Genie.

"Do you see that old goat that is next to him? He gives him milk and companionship".

"Yes, I see the goat, what is your wish?".

"Kill the goat".



In this extremely moving thread https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217256858 DUer Blue-Wave tells us that the composer of the Kherson orchestra was murdered because he refused an order by the Russians to hold a concert.



It is in this one completely senseless crime that we see a tragic element that has come to dominate the Russian soul and explains the entire war.

There are geopolitical reasons for a Russian occupation of Crimea including the 500 year Russian ambition to have a good warm water port.

But the real reason is that Putin cannot stand to have a neighbor that is more righteous, more well liked, more respected and enjoys more freedom and democracy than Russia. And then Ukraine had the audacity to elect a President that is more of a leader, more respected and is bringing the country more to a European standard than Russia. He knows that as Ukraine flourished he would be found wanting.

Putin could have done many great things. In the end he just wanted to kill his neighbors goat.
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Old Russian Parable [View all] grantcart Oct 2022 OP
Or as Colbert often says PlanetBev Oct 2022 #1
That's why USA hit its pinnacle. Shitters, envious of neighbors tear down instead of build together. TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #32
+1 2naSalit Oct 2022 #35
K&R betsuni Oct 2022 #2
Russia has never been anything but a terrorist state! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #3
I don't know about never mahina Oct 2022 #7
Well at least in modern world history anyway. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #9
Oh you bet. mahina Oct 2022 #13
Amazes me the companies doing business there. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #15
Check out American companies doing business with Hitler...plus OnDoutside Oct 2022 #25
Oh I know! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #27
I'll have to look... Been Hearing Prof T Snyder on public radio. Caught some of his tweets etc ty electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #11
You'll recognize him from Rachel Maddow show that's the author of the fabulous book,On Tyrrany mahina Oct 2022 #12
Hmmmm Maybe I did hear him on Rachel's show first I listen to the show electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #19
Oh, yes! ShazzieB Oct 2022 #24
Ive listened to or read some of his cilla4progress Oct 2022 #22
K&R. n/t ms liberty Oct 2022 #4
But you don't shed light on why, grantcart. cilla4progress Oct 2022 #5
Well grantcart Oct 2022 #8
Fascinating - cilla4progress Oct 2022 #20
Interesting analysis burrowowl Oct 2022 #29
"Its loss to Japan in the war of 1905 was the begining of the end ..." speak easy Oct 2022 #31
Great post! Buckeyeblue Oct 2022 #41
Tks grantcart Oct 2022 #44
Bookmarking. This is excellent. AllyCat Oct 2022 #6
Tks grantcart Oct 2022 #38
Moral wasteland. moondust Oct 2022 #10
It's Not every Russian. There have protests, and arrests in Russia against this war electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #14
True. moondust Oct 2022 #17
+1 MustLoveBeagles Oct 2022 #18
Um, I'm an atheist and I don't believe that cilla4progress Oct 2022 #21
I agree. The golden rule doesn't require a god. It's about cohabitation in a meaningful way. Buckeyeblue Oct 2022 #42
Stalin's attempt to stamp out religion did not work. Putin learned from Stalin's mistakes. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #28
He couldn't even stamp it out in his own family. grantcart Oct 2022 #37
Bookmarked MustLoveBeagles Oct 2022 #16
KnR, grantcart Hekate Oct 2022 #23
+1000 Oh Yes! You just explained the blue-wave Oct 2022 #26
"He knows that as Ukraine flourished he would be found wanting." SunSeeker Oct 2022 #30
Exactly RepubliCON and MAGAt reasoning: "he" is against the same people I'm against Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2022 #33
K&R brer cat Oct 2022 #34
Try googling "wish my neighbor's cow would die" and you'll get many hits on a similar version. eppur_se_muova Oct 2022 #36
Wow. crickets Oct 2022 #39
That 3auld6phart Oct 2022 #40
Saving their asses during WWII was in our self interest, it made it easier to invade France grantcart Oct 2022 #43
Fascinating thread thank you. yardwork Oct 2022 #45
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Oct 2022 #46
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