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moondust

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10. Moral wasteland.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 01:41 AM
Oct 2022
When the era of Communist rule began in Russia in 1917, religion was seen as a hindrance to a thriving socialist society. As Karl Marx, coauthor of the The Communist Manifesto, declared, “Communism begins where atheism begins.”

Joseph Stalin, as the second leader of the Soviet Union, tried to enforce militant atheism on the republic. The new “socialist man,” Stalin argued, was an atheist one, free of the religious chains that had helped to bind him to class oppression. From 1928 until World War II, when some restrictions were relaxed, the totalitarian dictator shuttered churches, synagogues and mosques and ordered the killing and imprisonment of thousands of religious leaders in an effort to eliminate even the concept of God.

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Why Stalin Tried to Stamp Out Religion in the Soviet Union

For more than a century now I believe there has been little to no moral teaching in Russia. No Ten Commandments. No Seven Deadly Sins. No Golden Rule/Do Unto Others. Etc. Many populations elsewhere learn that stuff as kids in church/Sunday school. The communists didn't want competition from churches for the hearts and minds of the population. Russians have been so propagandized first by the communists for a century and then continued by former communist KGB man Putin up to the present day that I just don't think there is much moral fabric there to restrain their worst instincts. And so they're bombing playgrounds and hospitals and schools and apartment buildings and killing a conductor and anybody else who is not okay with their barbarism.

K/R

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Old Russian Parable [View all] grantcart Oct 2022 OP
Or as Colbert often says PlanetBev Oct 2022 #1
That's why USA hit its pinnacle. Shitters, envious of neighbors tear down instead of build together. TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #32
+1 2naSalit Oct 2022 #35
K&R betsuni Oct 2022 #2
Russia has never been anything but a terrorist state! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #3
I don't know about never mahina Oct 2022 #7
Well at least in modern world history anyway. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #9
Oh you bet. mahina Oct 2022 #13
Amazes me the companies doing business there. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #15
Check out American companies doing business with Hitler...plus OnDoutside Oct 2022 #25
Oh I know! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #27
I'll have to look... Been Hearing Prof T Snyder on public radio. Caught some of his tweets etc ty electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #11
You'll recognize him from Rachel Maddow show that's the author of the fabulous book,On Tyrrany mahina Oct 2022 #12
Hmmmm Maybe I did hear him on Rachel's show first I listen to the show electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #19
Oh, yes! ShazzieB Oct 2022 #24
Ive listened to or read some of his cilla4progress Oct 2022 #22
K&R. n/t ms liberty Oct 2022 #4
But you don't shed light on why, grantcart. cilla4progress Oct 2022 #5
Well grantcart Oct 2022 #8
Fascinating - cilla4progress Oct 2022 #20
Interesting analysis burrowowl Oct 2022 #29
"Its loss to Japan in the war of 1905 was the begining of the end ..." speak easy Oct 2022 #31
Great post! Buckeyeblue Oct 2022 #41
Tks grantcart Oct 2022 #44
Bookmarking. This is excellent. AllyCat Oct 2022 #6
Tks grantcart Oct 2022 #38
Moral wasteland. moondust Oct 2022 #10
It's Not every Russian. There have protests, and arrests in Russia against this war electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #14
True. moondust Oct 2022 #17
+1 MustLoveBeagles Oct 2022 #18
Um, I'm an atheist and I don't believe that cilla4progress Oct 2022 #21
I agree. The golden rule doesn't require a god. It's about cohabitation in a meaningful way. Buckeyeblue Oct 2022 #42
Stalin's attempt to stamp out religion did not work. Putin learned from Stalin's mistakes. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #28
He couldn't even stamp it out in his own family. grantcart Oct 2022 #37
Bookmarked MustLoveBeagles Oct 2022 #16
KnR, grantcart Hekate Oct 2022 #23
+1000 Oh Yes! You just explained the blue-wave Oct 2022 #26
"He knows that as Ukraine flourished he would be found wanting." SunSeeker Oct 2022 #30
Exactly RepubliCON and MAGAt reasoning: "he" is against the same people I'm against Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2022 #33
K&R brer cat Oct 2022 #34
Try googling "wish my neighbor's cow would die" and you'll get many hits on a similar version. eppur_se_muova Oct 2022 #36
Wow. crickets Oct 2022 #39
That 3auld6phart Oct 2022 #40
Saving their asses during WWII was in our self interest, it made it easier to invade France grantcart Oct 2022 #43
Fascinating thread thank you. yardwork Oct 2022 #45
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Oct 2022 #46
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