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Tommy Carcetti

(44,154 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 09:36 AM Jul 2023

Indictments are not like demerits or bad Yelp reviews. [View all]

Last edited Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)

You can't just shake them off or accuse them of being issued out of spite or jealousy, and be done with it.

Indictments mean there is evidence you broke a specific law and that you are being charged with a crime.

They mean you are facing the prospect of having to sit in person for a trial--possibly for a period of days to weeks, depending on the case--where your own personal culpability is on the line.

They mean you are facing the prospect of being found guilty, and having a punishment imposed for your guilt.

Including, in many circumstances, jail/prison time where you will be legally confined and deprived of personal liberty.

Indictments signal a process--a long, laborious, time-consuming process, with real consequences and repercussions.

That's why I don't get all the cynicism about Trump supposedly getting more popular after being indicted, or all the handwringing over trial dates.

First of all, any fortification of popular support for Trump following indictments is happening exclusively within the Republican Party.

He's not getting any support from independents, from moderates, or obviously from Democrats. Indictments only further hurt and erode support for Trump for anyone outside of the cloistered Republican/Trumpist base.

Secondly, regardless of whether any trial happens before the election or after the election, as of now, they're set to happen. And again, unless you're a diehard Trumpist, the fact that Trump is running as a man under indictment is a serious, serious liability and not as asset.

I think it's important to stop and take stock of the truly deep shit Donald Trump is in at the current moment. It's not to be brushed off casually.

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Well said. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2023 #1
Hear Hear, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2023 #2
Chump's problem is he expects his lawyers to wave a magic wand and make it all disappear FakeNoose Jul 2023 #3
Love this. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #12
When pukes say look over here, look over there? pwb Jul 2023 #4
Good post, Tommy! brer cat Jul 2023 #5
By time there is an indictment there is evidence. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #6
"and having a punishment imposed for your guilt" 3825-87867 Jul 2023 #7
not all GOPers will continue to support him vlyons Jul 2023 #8
I got the feathers! 3825-87867 Jul 2023 #9
The growing list of indictments is also... Pluvious Jul 2023 #10
Amen to that Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #11
Preaching to the choir Mr. Ected Jul 2023 #13
To the maga horde they are. Kablooie Jul 2023 #14
Good luck taking that message into a general election. Nt Tommy Carcetti Jul 2023 #15
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