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Pototan

(1,138 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 09:20 PM Mar 20

Latest polls show too much movement toward Trump from minorities [View all]

I am celebrating my 1000th post here, so I hope I can express myself in a manner that makes my point but does not cause me trouble here at DU, because that's not my intention. When citing polls, please don't tell me to ignore the polls, because I think they are essentially accurate. Could they be off 5 points in one direction or another. Sure. But they are instructive. I also realize that they are a "snapshot" in time and could change.

Having said that, I just watched Harry Enten on CNN (corrected from OP) quote recent polls that show Trump's share of African American voters is the highest for a Republican in decades, perhaps 50 years. Among Hispanic voters, Biden was plus 24 in 2020, now he's plus 2.

I am 71 years old, retired and married to a 68-year-old Filipina and I live nearly full time in the Philippines. I moved here 2 years ago. There are members of my family that I no longer speak to because I called Trump a racist, and by extension, them for supporting him. I supported Black Lives Matter and railed against Trump for calling Mexicans (and we all know he meant all Hispanics) rapist and murders.

If young voters and POC voted for Biden, just in the numbers they did in 2020, our President would be up by double digits.

Sometimes, it's not the candidate's fault for a shift in voter sentiment. Sometimes it's the voters.

Anyway, older white voters with a college education are supporting Biden in greater numbers than in 2020. That's the demographic I'm in. But, if worse comes to worse, I'm already in another country. I made this decision (although I couldn't pull the trigger until 2022) right after 2016. I no longer wanted to live in a country in which 66 million (and later 77 million) people think a fucking no good, lowlife piece of shit, asshole like Donald Trump should serve as it's Chief Executive and Commander in Chief.

Color me discouraged and disappointed. And let me defend myself form any anticipated criticism. I supported and worked hard for Democrats in Massachusetts and nationally for fifty years. Every major office in Massachusetts was (and is) occupied by a progressive or left leaning Democrat. At 71, I am comfortable believing I did my part and earned a retirement for both me and my wife. At some point, others with more "skin in the game" have to wake up and do their part, or at least not work against themselves and their country.

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The very people that will be first in line to be MOMFUDSKI Mar 20 #1
there are lots ways they can chip away to win. POC voters, pro Palestinian voters, some Zionist voters mucifer Mar 20 #2
Terrifying vadermike Mar 20 #3
I think that, if we're lucky, Republicans will just do what they always do and cross some line Baitball Blogger Mar 20 #4
I'll believe it when I see it in an election Mountainguy Mar 20 #5
Black men are the most likely to vote for the orange plague, more than my fellow black women, but Joy Reid had a black Celerity Mar 20 #8
this one is astounding NJCher Mar 21 #29
Think things will improve closer to election, but I remember being shocked when I Silent Type Mar 20 #6
May I ask an honest question?... Think. Again. Mar 20 #7
As I said in the OP Pototan Mar 20 #11
Well I agree with doing all we can to help Biden no matter what the polls say... Think. Again. Mar 20 #18
I know a lot of black and Hispanic folk who will vote Trump Azathoth Mar 20 #9
Inflation is bad. We can't deny it. LeftInTX Mar 24 #33
Black Person Here Aepps22 Mar 20 #10
Will they sit out the election or vote 3rd party? Pototan Mar 20 #12
In recent polls, 20% of blacks polled womanofthehills Mar 25 #42
Lots of black people are mad at Biden about Gaza. LeftInTX Mar 24 #34
The majority of blacks are still voting Biden womanofthehills Mar 25 #41
Harry Enten is on CNN not MSNBC. I do not believe him Bev54 Mar 20 #13
Corrected OP on edit. Pototan Mar 21 #25
In 2016, Trump had 8% of black vote womanofthehills Mar 25 #38
Congratulations on your 1,000 post milestone. Did they indicate niyad Mar 20 #14
More than Trump - it's the 20% who won't vote for either womanofthehills Mar 25 #39
Biden is being blamed for higher food, housing and gasoline costs? NoMoreRepugs Mar 20 #15
People always blame that stuff on whoever is president at the time. ShazzieB Mar 21 #27
Housing seems to be a huge problem womanofthehills Mar 25 #40
Do you think if Trump was president, Democrats wouldn't be blaming him for inflation? MichMan Mar 25 #57
"we all know he meant all Hispanics" JoseBalow Mar 20 #16
Certainly true about Filipinos Pototan Mar 21 #24
Were you near Santarpios? Tickle Mar 25 #47
Pizza is thin and crispy, but Pototan Mar 25 #49
I'm sorry to hear that Tickle Mar 25 #59
Trump moved the needle in terms if whats considered acceptable behavior Demovictory9 Mar 20 #17
I do not dismiss the polls. summer_in_TX Mar 20 #19
I don't trust the political polls one iota. nt TeamProg Mar 20 #20
I am mistrustful of the polls and also the media reporting of those polls. hay rick Mar 20 #21
Unless the polling is specific to that minority group, it's pretty useless imo All Mixed Up Mar 20 #22
Your post doesn't take independents into consideration womanofthehills Mar 25 #43
Congratulations on your 1,000 post milestone! littlemissmartypants Mar 21 #23
It would be the ultimate revenge. Turbineguy Mar 21 #26
I heard this prediction all through 2020 and it didn't pan out. shrike3 Mar 21 #28
Kick Pototan Mar 24 #30
many black men ok with traditional female roles Captain Zero Mar 24 #31
I do agree Pototan Mar 24 #32
It probably has more to do with housing prices womanofthehills Mar 25 #44
If polls were accurate Hillary would have been President. LiberalFighter Mar 24 #35
Hillary won the popular vote Pototan Mar 24 #36
Hillary said the national polls were slightly more accurate in 2016 than in 2012. betsuni Mar 25 #48
Believe no poll. lees1975 Mar 25 #37
If the polls are wrong and we work the minority community... Pototan Mar 25 #45
Can't be helped. Not voting for Democrats, that's what they want for whatever reason. betsuni Mar 25 #46
It could be that this current blending... Pototan Mar 25 #50
I have little confidence in people. Will not be surprised with the worst case scenario. betsuni Mar 25 #52
Sometimes, doesn't it feel like we're living... Pototan Mar 25 #53
Oh, I always think of that movie! betsuni Mar 25 #55
Don't believe republican hype on right-leaning CNN. I am African-American... brush Mar 25 #56
Where are the intentionally discouraging polls for Trump? GreenWave Mar 25 #51
Bullshit Emile Mar 25 #54
Cable news will fry your brain - especially CNN Blues Heron Mar 25 #58
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