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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:58 PM Mar 24

Inside the Republican Attacks on Electric Vehicles [View all]

The electric vehicle, a breakthrough achievement in automotive technology, has driven into this year’s presidential election, inflaming partisan fights that have come to define much of American culture.

One reason is that President Joe Biden has made electric vehicles central to his strategy to combat climate change. This week, his administration announced the most ambitious climate regulation in the nation’s history: a measure designed to accelerate a transition toward electric vehicles and away from the gasoline-powered cars that are a major cause of global warming.

The political war over electric vehicles has been fueled by an incendiary mix of issues: technological change, the future of the oil and gas industry, concerns about competition from China and the American love of motorized muscle. And in the rural reaches of America, where few public charging stations exist, the notion of an all-electric future feels fanciful — another element to the urban-rural divide that underlies the nation’s polarization.

Biden’s opponent, former President Donald Trump, has for months escalated attacks on electric vehicles broadly and the new regulation in particular, falsely calling the rule a ban on gasoline-powered cars and claiming electric cars will “kill” America’s auto industry. He has called them an “assassination” of jobs. He has declared that the Biden administration “ordered a hit job on Michigan manufacturing” by encouraging the sales of electric cars.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/inside-republican-attacks-electric-vehicles-142632044.html

If Biden said it was not healthy to eat shit the GOP would host an all-you-can-eat feces feast.

As for the love of motorized muscle the F-150 lighting accelerates from 0 - 60 in 4 seconds.

Seattle's Metro Transit uses electric trolley buses on their hillier routes because they work better than conventional diesel buses.

The big drawback to electric vehicles is the limit of range and dearth of charging stations in some areas.

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"And in the rural reaches of America..." PJMcK Mar 24 #1
Why not charge when you get to the house? Silent3 Mar 24 #12
Not everyone lives in a house Caribbeans Mar 24 #16
I made my comment specifically in reply to "Our country house is 125 miles from the city... Silent3 Mar 24 #17
And I made my comment to show that battery electric vehicles will never be practical for everyone Caribbeans Mar 24 #18
Never? edisdead Mar 24 #40
Well that is ridiculous. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #59
I think you misunderstood my point PJMcK Mar 25 #49
And geography matters True Dough Mar 25 #53
How many people in that city (Hong Kong?) actually own cars? tinrobot Mar 24 #22
What if ForgedCrank Mar 26 #98
You charge at your country home. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #58
Your assumption is wrong for us PJMcK Mar 25 #64
Your specific example was your 125 mile trip to your country home. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #65
This sentence is the crux of the issue: CaliforniaPeggy Mar 24 #2
You just stated the exact problem that Biden aims to fix tinrobot Mar 24 #24
Pick my side? That's easy. President Biden IS my choice. And I already own an Audi e-tron electric car. nt CaliforniaPeggy Mar 24 #26
My choice of vehicle is not bound to my presidential vote PJMcK Mar 25 #50
No everything is frozen as it is right now. Voltaire2 Mar 25 #60
"The GOP wants to limit progress and keep EVs impractical. " grumpyduck Mar 26 #87
You write... Think. Again. Mar 24 #3
"Internal combustion engines average around 300 miles per tank,.." Disaffected Mar 24 #5
Out of boredom... Think. Again. Mar 24 #8
Yes, wallet range for EVs is a lot better, for now. Disaffected Mar 24 #13
Wow, that tax is so much cheaper than the additional cost of gas would be.... Think. Again. Mar 24 #14
Two comments: Disaffected Mar 24 #15
Luckily, the added expenses you mention, if they actually do go as far up as you're fearing... Think. Again. Mar 24 #19
Sure, EV bashing has become a right wing mantra. Disaffected Mar 24 #29
I need to wait for the price drops too... Think. Again. Mar 24 #34
China is now producing a small, pretty decent, basic EV hatch Disaffected Mar 24 #36
No, that's not true, lithium ion batteries just take about a 1/3 longer to charge at 32F. Think. Again. Mar 24 #38
What's not true? Disaffected Mar 25 #48
Oh, "permitted"... I guess they don't want you to notice the reduced range... Think. Again. Mar 25 #55
What is the UAW opinion about Chinese cars being sold here? MichMan Mar 26 #71
I suspect Disaffected Mar 26 #82
Have started ICE engines at -30F. yagotme Mar 26 #73
There's some very interesting articles about... Think. Again. Mar 26 #75
Hmmm... yagotme Mar 26 #76
Cool! So EVs DO run in cold weather! Think. Again. Mar 26 #77
Yes, but how well? yagotme Mar 26 #78
See the edit to my post above. Think. Again. Mar 26 #79
I read the Op article. yagotme Mar 26 #81
Yeah, heavier use is best done with heavy use vehicles. Think. Again. Mar 26 #83
Evs loose a lot of performance in cold weather Disaffected Mar 26 #84
Yup. I know it would be a variable, but some info on yagotme Mar 26 #85
That's a hard number to pin down Disaffected Mar 26 #88
That's what I mean. yagotme Mar 26 #89
I live in So Cal..this is an EV Mecca.. Tikki Mar 25 #51
I have a mid sized sedan and mine has a range of 540 miles when I filled up today MichMan Mar 24 #30
Wow, large tank. Think. Again. Mar 24 #35
How many charging stations are up and running from the infrastructure bill? Faux news doc03 Mar 24 #4
According to Consumer Affairs... Think. Again. Mar 24 #21
Is that counting battery replacement? former9thward Mar 24 #37
Yes, I like EVs better than ICEs even though I don't own one... Think. Again. Mar 24 #39
I have never had to replace an engine. former9thward Mar 24 #42
From: The Dept. of Energy https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_benefits.html Think. Again. Mar 24 #43
Well good luck to you when you get your EV. former9thward Mar 25 #62
Me either after driving for 60 years I have never replaced an engine or doc03 Mar 25 #45
So you've just sold or junked them?... Think. Again. Mar 25 #54
It says "cars" not one car. I have a 19-year-old Toyota Tacoma with 130000 miles. It has low doc03 Mar 25 #63
Someone has tried to force you to buy a car? Think. Again. Mar 25 #66
That's what the government is trying to do. If we wanted them they wouldn't need to doc03 Mar 25 #68
Well you're right about the infrastructure... Think. Again. Mar 25 #69
There are 46.4% of them in just 5 states, I don't live in them. Then there is the extra cost of the doc03 Mar 24 #44
According to your source, it's only 2x. yagotme Mar 26 #72
I arrived at my estimates using the charts in the article linked below... Think. Again. Mar 26 #74
My EV beats the tar out of any muscle car straight up superpatriotman Mar 24 #6
The F-150 does have a range problem when towing loads NickB79 Mar 24 #7
Range is significantly affected by ambient temperature RubyRose Mar 24 #9
Yes, heavier use calls for heavy-use vehicles... Think. Again. Mar 24 #23
What do you say to these nitwits the tell you it will create more toxins to create Maraya1969 Mar 24 #10
Eventually there will be a robust recycling program for batteries NickB79 Mar 24 #11
There already are recylcing programs tinrobot Mar 24 #27
I have a ICE pickup that is 19 years old, $10k for a battery is doc03 Mar 25 #46
Some battery types last a really long time. tinrobot Mar 25 #61
Probably ship them to poor countries so slave labor and children can extract anything of value MichMan Mar 24 #31
You can name call but modern gas cars put out very little pollution. former9thward Mar 24 #41
So you are saying that commiting suicide by sitting in your car in a closed garage Maraya1969 Mar 26 #86
That is not a greenhouse emission. former9thward Mar 26 #90
What you say is just wrong. Maraya1969 Mar 26 #91
You disagree, but scientists don't. former9thward Mar 26 #94
How about UC Berkley? Maraya1969 Mar 26 #96
No offense, but have you ever taken chemistry? former9thward Mar 26 #97
Yes but I am sure you are better at it than me. What blows my mind is your refusal Maraya1969 Mar 26 #99
You are still digging. former9thward Mar 26 #100
Are you trying to say that green houses, complete with enough toxins is not affecting the earth? Maraya1969 Mar 26 #92
I have no idea what your post says. former9thward Mar 26 #95
I did my Louisiana state income taxes today, and guess what... Goodheart Mar 24 #20
How do you expect road maintenance and repairs to be done if EV owners aren't paying ? MichMan Mar 24 #32
Republicans don't like change and new initiatives. llmart Mar 24 #25
"There will be more electric cars in the future until everyone will have one whether they like it or not." MichMan Mar 24 #33
Republicans should embrace ev as expensive as they are. nt Groundhawg Mar 24 #28
About 80% of commutes in the U.S. are within range of old lead-acid batteries. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 25 #47
I agree. SalamanderSleeps Mar 25 #52
The presumption that 1 vehicle has to meet all needs is costly and wasteful. Mopar151 Mar 25 #56
Seems like having to buy both an EV and an ICE vehicle is also costly and wasteful? MichMan Mar 26 #70
How many screwdrivers are enough? Mopar151 Mar 26 #93
American Petroleum Institute gibraltar72 Mar 25 #57
"If Biden said it was not healthy to eat shit the GOP would host an all-you-can-eat feces fest" Martin Eden Mar 25 #67
I see a pattern here I've seen before on Electric Vehicle OPs DBoon Mar 26 #80
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