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In reply to the discussion: "I just don't like Hillary..." [View all]DFW
(54,774 posts)She was doing diplomacy, health care, social issues even while WJC was governor of Arkansas, and she was anything but idle as Senator and SoS. Obviously, she would not have won the popular vote by 3 million against a more serious Republican opponent in 2016. But I still think she would have won the popular vote, and the Republican candidate, had it not been Trump, might not have been perceived to be as malleable as Trump, and therefore maybe not received the crooked assistance that put him over the top. I still consider it undeniable that she would have been a competent-to-good president, better than anyone else in the Democratic primaries. That the country got fucked six ways to Sunday by the Trump presidency is a given for me, and I do not lay the machinations that brought that about at her feet.