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Celerity

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11. Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:46 PM
May 13


Who wouldn't want a house on the beach? For some on Israel's far-right, desirable beachfront now includes the sands of Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68650815


Daniella Weiss does not deny charges of ethnic cleansing - BBC/Goktay Koraltan

Just ask Daniella Weiss, 78, the grandmother of Israel's settler movement, who says she already has a list of 500 families ready to move to Gaza immediately. "I have friends in Tel Aviv," she says, "so they say, 'Don't forget to keep for me a plot near the coast in Gaza,' because it's a beautiful, beautiful coast, beautiful golden sand". She tells them the plots on the coast are already booked. Mrs Weiss heads a radical settler organisation called Nachala, or homeland. For decades, she has been kickstarting Jewish settlements in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, on Palestinian land captured by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war.

Some in the settler movement have cherished the dream - or pipedream - of returning to Gaza since 2005, when Israel ordered a unilateral pullout, 21 settlements were dismantled and about 9,000 settlers were evacuated by the army. (Reporting from Gaza at the time, I saw many who were literally dragged out.) Many settlers saw all this as a betrayal by the state, and a strategic mistake. Opinion polls suggest that most Israelis oppose resettling Gaza, and it is not government policy, but since the Hamas attacks on 7 October it is being talked about out loud - by some of the loudest and most extreme voices in Israel's government.


Some illegal settlements have established their own checkpoints - BBC/Goktay Koraltan

Mrs Weiss proudly shows me a map of the West Bank with pink dots indicating Jewish settlements. The dots are scattered all over the map, eating away at land where Palestinians hope - or hoped - to build their state. There are about 700,000 Jewish settlers in these areas now and settler numbers are rising fast. The vast majority of the international community considers settlements illegal under international law, including the United Nations Security Council. Israel disputes this.

We meet Daniella at her home in the West Bank settlement of Kedumim, where red-roofed houses are spread over hilltops and valleys. She's in constant motion despite having an arm in plaster. Her vision for the future of Gaza - now home to 2.3 million Palestinians, many of them starving - is that it will be Jewish. "Gaza Arabs will not stay in the Gaza Strip," she says. "Who will stay? Jews." She claims that Palestinians want to leave Gaza and that other countries should take them in - although in a lengthy interview, she rarely uses the word "Palestinian". "The world is wide," she says. "Africa is big. Canada is big. The world will absorb the people of Gaza.

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Yehuda Shimon says Gaza must be Jewish - BBC/Goktay Koraltan

Someone will be along shortly Bettie May 13 #1
Some Israelis are a showing a concerning distinction between Aussie105 May 13 #4
Untermensch JoseBalow May 13 #35
Well, I've read the whole thread and so far no one is defending these asshats, MarineCombatEngineer May 13 #34
I have to disagree atreides1 May 14 #79
So, IOW, MarineCombatEngineer May 14 #85
Seems there some Mossfern May 14 #91
I think they are horrible people. Palestinian people are starving Trueblue1968 May 13 #36
Israel is more diverse than America. Nobody is denying that right-wingers are skidmarks... AnrothElf May 14 #50
Yes, they have elections Bettie May 14 #83
The settlers are not the good guys Dorian Gray May 14 #66
The hate is strong in some people. Aussie105 May 13 #2
Sickening malaise May 13 #5
They need to throw these kooks in jail. They're literally interfering with the military LeftInTX May 13 #3
I'd wager Mossfern May 13 #6
Apparently you can donate to them from the US LeftInTX May 13 #7
Wow! Mossfern May 13 #12
I reported the donation link to the FBI. TOI said they are the group. (Tzav 9) LeftInTX May 13 #14
No, they are merely US enablers of Genocide in Gaza... DemocraticPatriot May 13 #25
It's not genocide and every time you deliberately misuse that term, it denegrates actual genocide. Stop it. AnrothElf May 14 #53
..merely a little ethnic cleansing.. thomski64 May 14 #59
Fucking bullshit. And offensive in the extreme. AnrothElf May 14 #63
Exactly! Mossfern May 14 #69
It's very much ethnic cleansing. erodriguez May 14 #76
It is 100% ethnic cleansing obamanut2012 May 14 #87
No. It's not. AnrothElf May 14 #90
The issues is systemic in nature and not tied to a particular figure or party. David__77 May 14 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera May 14 #75
The White House. I'm serious. AloeVera May 13 #17
I did the FBI, but the Dept of State might work. LeftInTX May 13 #19
Yes and way to go!!! AloeVera May 13 #22
Oh, screw this! 😬 electric_blue68 May 13 #39
Sounds familiar doesn't it? Something something "border crisis"? AnrothElf May 14 #52
Yes, it does! LeftInTX May 14 #58
What's the evidence that this is in any way connected to the OP? Be careful of disinformation. AnrothElf May 14 #54
Jerusalem Post and others listed the name of the group and I googled them and saw the fundraiser LeftInTX May 14 #57
good Israelis enid602 May 13 #9
Do you read the news? Dorian Gray May 14 #67
Protest enid602 May 14 #68
They're literally interfering with aid to starving people. AloeVera May 13 #8
Agree. I heard this reported on NPR. wnylib May 13 #10
US stresses humanitarian aid should not be impeded LeftInTX May 13 #15
Whose fundraising site? Your last paragraph confused me. wnylib May 13 #16
The group blocking convey is known as TZAV 9. They have a fundraising site available in the US LeftInTX May 13 #18
you could report the site to the hosting registrar. orange jar May 13 #20
It's part of larger type Israeli "go fund me" type site. Many are legit charities, but this one should not be in the US LeftInTX May 13 #21
Thanks for clarifying it. BTW, tge English translation of that group is Order 9. wnylib May 13 #24
Israel has tons of charities fundraising with the US. LeftInTX May 13 #32
The US needs to start talking about the future of Gaza. mjvpi May 13 #27
I think that has been Biden's goal from the start. wnylib May 13 #30
I saw that as part of Blinken's last push. mjvpi May 13 #31
It might be just me, but the talking should have been done the last 7 months AloeVera May 14 #88
An eye for an eye till all go blind Traurigkeit May 13 #28
Even if I agreed with that logic, which I don't, it's still not something they should be doing Sympthsical May 14 #42
There's every likelihood that they WILL face jail time. AnrothElf May 14 #51
There's every likelihood they won't... Violet_Crumble May 14 #56
Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront Celerity May 13 #11
RW troublemakers. But, for the record, some of the villages wnylib May 13 #26
" allowed to move there." Traurigkeit May 13 #29
??? wnylib May 14 #44
I think they're referring to the Israeli govt allowing/encouraging the settlers... Violet_Crumble May 14 #47
That's why I said that "some" Jewish settlements in Gaza were there wnylib May 14 #80
Settlers Mossfern May 13 #13
Gee, I did NOT-SEE that coming. Hassin Bin Sober May 13 #23
Be careful how you feel about it, HBS! Violet_Crumble May 14 #61
Hello! Hassin Bin Sober May 14 #92
Oh man, who could have seen that coming... Again. RockRaven May 13 #33
Shortly we'll be assured that this, too, is Hamas' fault Orrex May 13 #37
Pretty much. Yeah. Hamas wanted this kind of reaction 10000%. AnrothElf May 14 #55
However, if I am following this thread correctly Mossfern May 14 #70
These are bad people and they should be arrested. Ace Rothstein May 13 #38
Post removed Post removed May 13 #40
The DU Jewish group? Sympthsical May 14 #43
I know! LeftInTX May 14 #45
I think it be nice ilovegamers43 May 14 #62
Uh oh. I've been paling around with the "DU Jewish group." I AM SPARTACUS! betsuni May 14 #73
Got 8 recs before being removed Sympthsical May 14 #82
What's even more disturbing Mossfern May 14 #89
Oh Thank Goodness! Cha May 14 #93
Jewish DUers don't need to defend anything... Violet_Crumble May 14 #46
You might have trouble there ilovegamers43 May 14 #48
Again, I know who that is, and being Jewish isn't the explanation for their extremist views... Violet_Crumble May 14 #49
Yeah I saw that Goddessartist May 14 #84
Wow! Mossfern May 14 #71
Looks like I missed something sarisataka May 14 #86
Who are the members of this "DU Jewish group" you speak of? Patton French May 14 #74
While there maaaay be some exceptions(?); screw the West Bank Settlers movement! electric_blue68 May 13 #41
Yes, we need a wider perspective. AloeVera May 14 #78
In Israel settlers are considered intruding on Palestinian land. Settlers tend to be nationalistic and rightwing. LeftInTX May 14 #81
It seems MFM008 May 14 #60
Note the absence of state forces intervention. David__77 May 14 #65
Right wing government Mossfern May 14 #72
You missed the fire hoses in Tel Aviv. They were hosing Israelis LeftInTX May 14 #77
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