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W_HAMILTON

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33. I explain it by realizing that Democrats are a diverse bunch that each want their own particular candidates.

Thu Jul 11, 2024, 03:15 PM

Jul 2024

And just because the majority may want Biden to drop out doesn't mean the majority can coalesce on any one particular candidate -- hell, you know why Biden won in the first place? Even among literally dozens of other candidates? Because he was the most palatable to everyone. There is no difference now. If you think Democrats don't like Biden, just wait and see how much they don't like whoever replaces him (unless it's Michelle Obama, apparently).

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Biden and Trump tied despite debate (ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll) [View all] ClearSky24 Jul 2024 OP

I'm hoping these ties in the polls... Omnipresent Jul 2024 #1

Good god, the worrying never stops, does it? W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #4

You are not worried about a potential Trump win? LudwigPastorius Jul 2024 #20

THAT is what we should actually be worrying about. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #24

How do you explain that in this same poll, a majority of Democrats want Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #27

It is not inconsistent for 1/2 to want Biden out AND in head to head, they vote Biden karynnj Jul 2024 #30

It is not inconsistent at all. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #31

Exactly, the dilemma is, it is Biden's decision and change at this point could be chaotic karynnj Jul 2024 #40

Yes change would be chaotic and unpredictable. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #42

You are right. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #36

I explain it by realizing that Democrats are a diverse bunch that each want their own particular candidates. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #33

He was chosen because no other serious candidate challenged him. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #35

Because no one could have beaten him and they didn't want to end their political futures by trying. W_HAMILTON Jul 2024 #38

Thats been the pattern in the past.. Omnipresent Jul 2024 #21

"These polls" lees1975 Jul 2024 #17

Um..No Omnipresent Jul 2024 #39

Biden (or any Democrat) needs to win the popular vote by AT LEAST 2-3 points democrattotheend Jul 2024 #34

Biden and Harris need to be seen as a team by the public. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #2

The population that it has been an ongoing battle to stop looking at the government TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #44

Trump is cooked: IF DEMOCRATS STOP COOKING BIDEN. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #3

Oh, that'd be too much to ask. shrike3 Jul 2024 #7

Exactly. This is just what DNC Chair Jaime Harrison just said. Of course polls will be close if some in one party are Deek1935 Jul 2024 #12

Correct MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #18

! lees1975 Jul 2024 #16

Despite the debate, an onslaught from the media madibella Jul 2024 #5

You should be. shrike3 Jul 2024 #10

When anyone in the MSM or recognized polls says it's a tie, Biden's leading in real life. Magoo48 Jul 2024 #6

and the poll azureblue Jul 2024 #8

But -- but -- Biden is finished. Right? shrike3 Jul 2024 #9

Have hard time feeling other than the election is largely baked at this point ok_cpu Jul 2024 #11

The topline figure isn't bad ITAL Jul 2024 #13

Yes, the debate didn't help matters. But it's not the disaster many are painting it to be. shrike3 Jul 2024 #14

Keep in mind that in almost all of the special elections Bettie Jul 2024 #15

Add at least 5 points to Biden's number. ananda Jul 2024 #19

I don't know how accurate these numbers are but I think the VP Harris numbers are important JI7 Jul 2024 #22

Yes, fortunately, Kamala Harris is already on the ticket Walleye Jul 2024 #26

Repuke voters probably pushing Kamala as a replacement flamingdem Jul 2024 #23

I feel like we're probably going to pull this out.... but I've been horribly wrong before. groundloop Jul 2024 #25

We could pull it out if our own party starts behaving. LisaL Jul 2024 #28

47% -- Trump about locked in at that, and he lost with that last time. viva la Jul 2024 #29

What do they mean by "despite debate"?... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #32

Are we supposed to be satisfied with a tie? totodeinhere Jul 2024 #37

Well TRHST82 Jul 2024 #41

Yeah but a tie means we have a 50% chance of losing. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #46

Nobody is going to lead by 30 becsuse of the makeup of our electorate JI7 Jul 2024 #43

I would think that 5 or 6 points could be scratched out though. TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #45

How stupidly sad mdbl Jul 2024 #47