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Self Esteem

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25. Who's being shy?

Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:40 AM

Jul 18

I thought I was pretty clear but let me reiterate: I think multiple parties are conspiring against Joe Biden and the 14 million people who voted for him in the Democratic Primary.

I have zero appreciation for any of them. I could give a rat's ass how many years they've been in the party or served. What they're doing right now to our president is shameful.

How's that?

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1. Barack Obama; 2. Nancy Pelosi; [View all] speak easy Jul 17 OP

Trashed orangecrush Jul 17 #1

Of course you do. speak easy Jul 17 #4

Have you heard of any preference Obama may have? Frasier Balzov Jul 17 #2

FWIW, his relative recent silence could be interpreted as him weighing in without weighing in. BannonsLiver Jul 18 #5

Agreed. sheshe2 Jul 18 #10

If Schumer & Pelosi had only one choice: win the Senate/House or the Presidency, what do you think they'd choose? Self Esteem Jul 17 #3

Exactly, they will choose Bettie Jul 18 #8

Is there an argument to be made DaBronx Jul 18 #9

I think that argument is plausible. Another way of looking at it is Seeking Serenity Jul 18 #60

Their long, long records of Democratic Party public service speak for them... Hekate Jul 18 #17

Who's being shy? Self Esteem Jul 18 #25

Yup. You just carry on with the ol' bothsiderism. Hekate Jul 18 #26

Weird reply. Self Esteem Jul 18 #27

The thing is claudette Jul 18 #34

The thing is Self Esteem Jul 18 #43

I don't care either claudette Jul 18 #44

Cool. Self Esteem Jul 18 #45

But think of it claudette Jul 18 #46

Not voting in November if Biden isn't the nominee is reckless. orange jar Jul 18 #55

Shades of 2016. yardwork Jul 18 #58

Very much so. orange jar Jul 18 #61

Post removed Post removed Jul 18 #59

I think that's a disgraceful way to speak of Democratic leaders. yardwork Jul 18 #57

Thank you. betsuni Jul 18 #31

Where where they when there were doubts last year? Klarkashton Jul 18 #6

The persons mentioned in the OP have been working hard all along. If you had been paying attention... Hekate Jul 18 #14

I just saw an ad on Youtube last night of Barack Obama raising money standingtall Jul 18 #7

Saw the same ad peggysue2 Jul 18 #50

I don't think any of these individuals AkFemDem Jul 18 #11

Democrats beholden to wealthy donors, billionaires and corporations are old Both Sides All Government Corrupt insults betsuni Jul 18 #12

No evidence but the donations. Mister Ed Jul 18 #15

How have Democrats changed their positions depending on donations? betsuni Jul 18 #16

I am not privy to their thoughts, nor their private discussions with donors. Mister Ed Jul 18 #21

What are examples (there must be many!) of Democrats changing their policy positions or votes depending on donations? betsuni Jul 18 #22

Well, I already gave you one, Mister Ed Jul 18 #24

"massive amounts of money are donated to campaigns and PACs" -- assuming all betsuni Jul 18 #30

That's a colossal strawman. Mister Ed Jul 18 #32

Well then, what's it about? Maybe somebody else can explain. betsuni Jul 18 #33

I wish I had the links...But Clinton gave the big donors bedroom rights. Dan Jul 18 #52

You are putting the case very, very politely, & I thank you for it Hekate Jul 18 #13

A feeding frenzy! betsuni Jul 18 #18

It's hard to keep up, but we shall try Hekate Jul 18 #19

Then I guess it's time for us to part ways ... n/t wackadoo wabbit Jul 18 #20

Good for you. speak easy Jul 18 #28

If the Democrats didn't have wealthy donors ... Straw Man Jul 18 #23

The point is, we are going to get Hubert Humphreyed because of this late second guessing bullshit. nt BootinUp Jul 18 #29

The point is - speak easy Jul 18 #35

People that have not been involved in the campaign are not the best judge. It is this lack of trust in Biden BootinUp Jul 18 #36

ur " People that have not been involved in the campaign" speak easy Jul 18 #37

Do your worst because I am definitely pissed off and dgaf. BootinUp Jul 18 #38

and vote for our nominee in November, speak easy Jul 18 #39

Now who's being naive? BlueTsunami2018 Jul 18 #40

All career politicians are "beholden" all corrupt? What evidence? betsuni Jul 18 #41

You don't get to the leadership positions without being beholden to someone. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 18 #42

Not the point. betsuni Jul 18 #48

Isn't Biden a career politician? SharonClark Jul 18 #49

Yes, exactly democrattotheend Jul 18 #51

He is. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 18 #62

I agree. Wingus Dingus Jul 18 #47

Left On speak easy!!!!!!! Faux pas Jul 18 #53

Well said Zeitghost Jul 18 #54

I'm with you. yardwork Jul 18 #56