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Self Esteem

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1. It really comes down to whether his positives outweigh the fact he's not from a swing state.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:55 PM
Jul 2024

Remember, Harris was from California, decidedly not a swing state and yet she was chosen.

As was Biden in 2008, despite the fact he was from Delaware.

I actually don't know if I trust the idea that having the veep from a swing state does all that much to move the needle.

In 2016, Hillary won Virginia by six points. That was only two-points better than Obama won the state in 2012 and actually four-points worse than Biden won it four years later. So, did Tim Kaine really help in Virginia?

If Shapiro can guarantee Pennsylvania, I say do it. But I can't really recall when a VP nominee actually locked down their state.

Edwards certainly didn't in 2004. Ryan didn't bring Wisconsin. I guess Gore with Tennessee but I suspect Clinton would have won Tennessee both elections regardless since he did very well in the south.

Maybe LBJ and Texas? Mondale in Minnesota? That was a long time ago, tho.

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