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MineralMan

(149,636 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 10:03 AM Aug 2024

Questioning Walz's Military Service is Just Plain Stupid [View all]

In 1965, I enlisted in the USAF for a four-year term. I did that the day I received my draft notice. It was a calculated move on my part, of course. I figured that my chances of being killed in combat would be lower if I committed to four years of service in the USAF. That was the choice I made.

During that four years, I cannot count all of the times I was called a "Draft Dodger" by someone who got drafted into the Army. When that happened, I'd just smile and say, "You'll be out in two. I'm in for four."

Service is service. Air Force guys went to Viet Nam, too. Some died there. I didn't go to Viet Nam, but I had no say in that at all. You enlist and you take your chances. I ended up in Turkey, of all places.

After my enlistment was over, I returned to civilian life and picked up where I left off, more or less. I was four years older, and a little wiser.

So, Tim Walz enlisted in the Army National Guard when he was 17 years old. 24 years later, he retired, having reached the highest possible enlisted rank. Now, he didn't serve around the clock, 24/7/365. He was a National Guard soldier. He made a choice, just as I did. He chose to serve for 24 years in a position that let him also be a teacher and later a member of Congress. You can do that if you're in the National Guard.

I served. Walz served. Everyone who wore the uniform served. Those who were in uniform have always been a small minority of the population. Except for the draft, most served voluntarily. They chose to serve. I did. Walz did. Countless thousands did. All of them served.

Frankly, you either did or did not serve. If you did, you deserve thanks for your service. If you did not, you didn't. That's also OK. But, either way, those who served in the military deserve better than to be questioned. Service is service.

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Signed up in the Marine Corps in 1970. I know, crazy, but... Wounded Bear Aug 2024 #1
Even in the Marines, the Majority Don't See Combat MineralMan Aug 2024 #2
Fantastic thread MineralMan. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #3
Thanks! MineralMan Aug 2024 #4
I seem Rebl2 Aug 2024 #13
Aside from the stupidity of questioning his service, its so easy to turn this around on them - the video they are tulipsandroses Aug 2024 #5
Excellent post. anciano Aug 2024 #6
My pleasure! MineralMan Aug 2024 #7
Funny how W's National Guard service was so glorious but John Kerry's actual battlefield action tetedur Aug 2024 #8
Good points! MineralMan Aug 2024 #9
George W Bush during Vietnam Seinan Sensei Aug 2024 #39
As I Recall.. ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #51
I have basically the same story, but I enlisted in the Navy Emile Aug 2024 #10
Yes. The NG gets used in ways today that were not MineralMan Aug 2024 #11
To Be Fair... GB_RN Aug 2024 #38
Thanks for that info! MineralMan Aug 2024 #40
Absolutely! GB_RN Aug 2024 #55
My father was a B-17 pilot. MineralMan Aug 2024 #56
Mediterranean Theater of Operations... GB_RN Aug 2024 #57
463rd Bombardment Group (heavy) MineralMan Aug 2024 #58
Cool. GB_RN Aug 2024 #59
One other thing I feel I need to point out MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #12
Yes, exactly. MineralMan Aug 2024 #14
By signing up you give up control underpants Aug 2024 #15
If you were a Cav Scout you weren't AT the front. COL Mustard Aug 2024 #32
Possibly underpants Aug 2024 #35
It worked for them with Kerry and Max Cleland ibegurpard Aug 2024 #16
Absolutely right, and some of us have long, long memories. Hoping that the Dem party fights back hard this time. Hekate Aug 2024 #46
His former CO in the MNARNG is miffed at him Bucky Aug 2024 #17
CSM/SGM are E-9 COL Mustard Aug 2024 #34
Its making them Figarosmom Aug 2024 #18
The GQP is nothing if not plain stupid relayerbob Aug 2024 #19
"...feel any shame now?" 3catwoman3 Aug 2024 #31
Agreed, it mostly a rhetorical question relayerbob Aug 2024 #37
Thank you for helping me know what to say when online trolls detract from Walz's service. ancianita Aug 2024 #20
Yes, thank you. Elessar Zappa Aug 2024 #21
When you enlist... TygrBright Aug 2024 #22
Belittling the service of a National Guard or Reservist in any branch is stupid. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2024 #23
If republicans will trash the honorable service of one vet Politicub Aug 2024 #24
Well, Trump thinks people in the military are stupid losers. MineralMan Aug 2024 #25
Well put Raven123 Aug 2024 #26
Excellent! LoisB Aug 2024 #27
Do the math... lame54 Aug 2024 #28
They will tell you it's because he lied liberal N proud Aug 2024 #29
Spot on, MM peggysue2 Aug 2024 #30
Say Thanks to your husband for me. MineralMan Aug 2024 #33
I'll pass the message along, MM peggysue2 Aug 2024 #42
Also, Walz signed up for the Guard when there was no draft, after Vietnam AdamGG Aug 2024 #36
Very good point! MineralMan Aug 2024 #41
It's just weird 🤯 cstanleytech Aug 2024 #43
My dad was the same as you - only 2 years older. TBF Aug 2024 #44
I enlisted musclecar6 Aug 2024 #45
Pro repug media ignoring orange turd draft dodging GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #47
I'm still bothered by what they did to Walz Jarqui Aug 2024 #48
This would make a great opening post! Emile Aug 2024 #50
Thanks, MM. Senators Kerry and Cleland got slammed by the Swiftboaters, who should be ashamed Hekate Aug 2024 #49
By his own standards, Vantz abandoned his fellow Marines. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #52
They have no choice. They can't campaign on ideas because they have none. Buckeyeblue Aug 2024 #53
In 1969 I enlisted directly into the Seabees as a CE3 (E4) rickford66 Aug 2024 #54
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