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Jarqui

(10,689 posts)
48. I'm still bothered by what they did to Walz
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 01:46 PM
Aug 2024

Generations of my family served. By far, my brother and I did the least - it's something I NEVER tell people because it was so close to nothing compared to others. My family members paid a heavy price. It was tough and still is to this day. Wounds that will never heal. So maybe I'm more sensitive to what they did to Walz.

In 2002, Walz was reviewed because he had hearing problems. Ultimately, they let him continue in the service.
Combat can be more dangerous with hearing problems. You sometimes can't tell where the gunfire or tank sound is coming from for example or someone sneaking up behind you.
In 2003-4, Walz went to Italy in Operation Enduring Freedom - part of what he did was train soldiers in the use of weapons including heavy artillery (which is apparently how he hurt his ears over the years). His unit guarded air bases with nuclear weapons against terrorist attack .. but he "never carried a weapon of war" ...
In 2005, after he retired, he had stapedectomy surgery, a procedure in which damaged bones inside the ear are replaced with a prosthesis. It improved his hearing but does not cure it. And he still has tinnitus.

If your ears are that bad that you had to have that kind of surgery, how does it make sense to deploy that person to combat? His safety is in question with poor hearing. If his hearing gets more damage from combat, how will he be able to hear his students questions? Or debate in the House of Representatives? Or hear his grandchildren?

Part of my own hearing problems is related to discharging weapons. I often have to have people repeat themselves. etc. I have tinnitus - sometimes bilateral, sometimes unilateral. Tinnitus can be really loud at times. So I can relate.

I find it repugnant that they would smear Walz for saying "I've had enough." under those circumstances especially when he suffered this damage in the line of duty.

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Signed up in the Marine Corps in 1970. I know, crazy, but... Wounded Bear Aug 2024 #1
Even in the Marines, the Majority Don't See Combat MineralMan Aug 2024 #2
Fantastic thread MineralMan. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #3
Thanks! MineralMan Aug 2024 #4
I seem Rebl2 Aug 2024 #13
Aside from the stupidity of questioning his service, its so easy to turn this around on them - the video they are tulipsandroses Aug 2024 #5
Excellent post. anciano Aug 2024 #6
My pleasure! MineralMan Aug 2024 #7
Funny how W's National Guard service was so glorious but John Kerry's actual battlefield action tetedur Aug 2024 #8
Good points! MineralMan Aug 2024 #9
George W Bush during Vietnam Seinan Sensei Aug 2024 #39
As I Recall.. ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #51
I have basically the same story, but I enlisted in the Navy Emile Aug 2024 #10
Yes. The NG gets used in ways today that were not MineralMan Aug 2024 #11
To Be Fair... GB_RN Aug 2024 #38
Thanks for that info! MineralMan Aug 2024 #40
Absolutely! GB_RN Aug 2024 #55
My father was a B-17 pilot. MineralMan Aug 2024 #56
Mediterranean Theater of Operations... GB_RN Aug 2024 #57
463rd Bombardment Group (heavy) MineralMan Aug 2024 #58
Cool. GB_RN Aug 2024 #59
One other thing I feel I need to point out MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #12
Yes, exactly. MineralMan Aug 2024 #14
By signing up you give up control underpants Aug 2024 #15
If you were a Cav Scout you weren't AT the front. COL Mustard Aug 2024 #32
Possibly underpants Aug 2024 #35
It worked for them with Kerry and Max Cleland ibegurpard Aug 2024 #16
Absolutely right, and some of us have long, long memories. Hoping that the Dem party fights back hard this time. Hekate Aug 2024 #46
His former CO in the MNARNG is miffed at him Bucky Aug 2024 #17
CSM/SGM are E-9 COL Mustard Aug 2024 #34
Its making them Figarosmom Aug 2024 #18
The GQP is nothing if not plain stupid relayerbob Aug 2024 #19
"...feel any shame now?" 3catwoman3 Aug 2024 #31
Agreed, it mostly a rhetorical question relayerbob Aug 2024 #37
Thank you for helping me know what to say when online trolls detract from Walz's service. ancianita Aug 2024 #20
Yes, thank you. Elessar Zappa Aug 2024 #21
When you enlist... TygrBright Aug 2024 #22
Belittling the service of a National Guard or Reservist in any branch is stupid. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2024 #23
If republicans will trash the honorable service of one vet Politicub Aug 2024 #24
Well, Trump thinks people in the military are stupid losers. MineralMan Aug 2024 #25
Well put Raven123 Aug 2024 #26
Excellent! LoisB Aug 2024 #27
Do the math... lame54 Aug 2024 #28
They will tell you it's because he lied liberal N proud Aug 2024 #29
Spot on, MM peggysue2 Aug 2024 #30
Say Thanks to your husband for me. MineralMan Aug 2024 #33
I'll pass the message along, MM peggysue2 Aug 2024 #42
Also, Walz signed up for the Guard when there was no draft, after Vietnam AdamGG Aug 2024 #36
Very good point! MineralMan Aug 2024 #41
It's just weird 🤯 cstanleytech Aug 2024 #43
My dad was the same as you - only 2 years older. TBF Aug 2024 #44
I enlisted musclecar6 Aug 2024 #45
Pro repug media ignoring orange turd draft dodging GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #47
I'm still bothered by what they did to Walz Jarqui Aug 2024 #48
This would make a great opening post! Emile Aug 2024 #50
Thanks, MM. Senators Kerry and Cleland got slammed by the Swiftboaters, who should be ashamed Hekate Aug 2024 #49
By his own standards, Vantz abandoned his fellow Marines. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #52
They have no choice. They can't campaign on ideas because they have none. Buckeyeblue Aug 2024 #53
In 1969 I enlisted directly into the Seabees as a CE3 (E4) rickford66 Aug 2024 #54
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