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cos dem

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7. This does seem plausible
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jan 2025

With the important caveat that anything at this point is mostly idle speculation, it does appear to me that the CRJ was on a standard approach. I also have questions about the ADSB and TCAS, which should have absolutely been enabled when operating in this airspace. If the UH60 was perform a "covert" training operation, that should be done within a MOA (military operating area) at a minimum, not in one of the busiest airspaces in the country. Even then, I question why that would be necessary, since the training itself should not need to be covert, just "here's how you would do it, if it was required".

The tower apparently asked the UH60 if it had the CRJ in sight, but it's not clear if the 60 responded (they may have been on a military frequency). Conditions were visual, so it really should be on the UH60 pilot to see-and-avoid.

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Very interesting analysis/speculation, TRAINING military helicopter elleng Jan 2025 #1
I don't know anything about any of this or who this guy is ok_cpu Jan 2025 #2
It was the least speculative view I had seen today and he seems to base his prediction on the few known facts and his ShazamIam Jan 2025 #5
such training would never be done in crowded airspace rampartd Jan 2025 #11
but that's where the base is located, no choice. elleng Jan 2025 #15
the choice is to fly out to the boonies rampartd Jan 2025 #16
trDUMPie liked his no facts explanation,... magicarpet Jan 2025 #3
For what it's worth (probably not much) Thunderbeast Jan 2025 #4
That is one of the thoughts I had about the reports, that the helicopter had seen the wrong airplane. nt ShazamIam Jan 2025 #6
"collision avoidance systems were not operating " EX500rider Jan 2025 #8
This does seem plausible cos dem Jan 2025 #7
Too low EX500rider Jan 2025 #9
Thanks, didn't know that. But it makes sense. cos dem Jan 2025 #17
helicopter routes over the river go right through runway 33 approach: EX500rider Jan 2025 #10
Here's a good review of what we know so far: EX500rider Jan 2025 #12
Thanks, more details than I had found and also not overly long. Great addition to the post. nt ShazamIam Jan 2025 #13
He has a update here: EX500rider Jan 2025 #14
So, ADSB was responding. Otherwise they wouldn't have the track data. cos dem Jan 2025 #18
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