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cab67

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45. plants are a whole 'nother level of complex.
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 06:38 PM
Apr 2025

Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:30 AM - Edit history (1)

I like to say crocodiles hybridize with gay abandon, but they're celibate puritans compared with plants. Their evolutionary relationships are more like a woven rug than a tree.

True story - someone once showed me a crocodile skull with little horn-like projections behind the eyes. In modern crocodiles, this typically only happens in Cuban and Siamese crocodiles. Cuban crocodiles are New World crocodiles, so they also have a rounded hump in the middle of the snout. Siamese crocodiles are Indopacific forms with slender crests (ridges) extending forward from right in front of each eye.

This one had both the hump and the crests.

Turns out, when Vietnam was trying to get its economy going after the war, they wanted to expand their crocodile farming operations for the exotic leather industry. The Siamese and saltwater crocodiles native to Vietnam weren't doing so well, so they couldn't get many into captivity. They thus went to the only other communist country with a native population of crocodiles for extra breeding stock.

Siamese and Cuban crocodiles haven't shared a common ancestor for 10 to 15 million years, and yet they can interbreed. And the offspring are fertile.

And their skulls annoy the f-word out of me.

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It would seem that they are just genetically-modified gray wolves. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #1
They really are! littlemissmartypants Apr 2025 #11
they are indeed! cab67 Apr 2025 #20
There is a certain absurd stupidity of spending tens of millions of dollars studying how to resurrect extinct animals, Oneironaut Apr 2025 #2
Except on Game of Thrones! ScoutHikerDad Apr 2025 #3
I could never get into that show. cab67 Apr 2025 #4
And a sad result of that show... catchnrelease Apr 2025 #22
It's the same every Easter. cab67 Apr 2025 #25
I had a Siberian from 1998-2012 VGNonly Apr 2025 #32
I showed Afghan Hounds SADAR Apr 2025 #43
I met such a cross. cab67 Apr 2025 #44
I like the House of the Dragon! yardwork Apr 2025 #24
There is not and never has been a scientific agreement DenaliDemocrat Apr 2025 #5
to be honest... cab67 Apr 2025 #15
I had to chuckle Cirsium Apr 2025 #33
plants are a whole 'nother level of complex. cab67 Apr 2025 #45
Amazing story about the crocs Cirsium Apr 2025 #49
My introduction to the Dire Wolf. dem4decades Apr 2025 #6
The dire wolf collects his due... LuckyCharms Apr 2025 #47
Thank you for clearing up things! OldEurope Apr 2025 #7
Vielen Dank! cab67 Apr 2025 #21
Sigh. OldEurope Apr 2025 #34
Darmstadt? cab67 Apr 2025 #35
Yes. Darmstadt. OldEurope Apr 2025 #40
In fact.... cab67 Apr 2025 #38
Too long. Will read tomorrow ;-) OldEurope Apr 2025 #41
EXCELLENT post, Cab!! AZ8theist Apr 2025 #8
much appreciated! cab67 Apr 2025 #12
Thank you so much for this well thought out, well written article. I enjoyed reading the entire thing, every bit of it! SWBTATTReg Apr 2025 #14
thanks! cab67 Apr 2025 #26
Yup. I said that on the other thread about this from this morning Arazi Apr 2025 #9
You and this post... littlemissmartypants Apr 2025 #10
I second that motion Hekate Apr 2025 #19
Thank you for this information. n/t ChazII Apr 2025 #13
Thank you for the explanation mdbl Apr 2025 #16
Thank you for taking the time to post this. MontanaMama Apr 2025 #17
much appreciated! cab67 Apr 2025 #27
What a fun read! Hekate Apr 2025 #18
thanks! cab67 Apr 2025 #28
This is fascinating! Thank you! yardwork Apr 2025 #23
Thanks Cirsium Apr 2025 #29
This article pretty much agrees with you Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2025 #30
All I want to know is can I pet that dawg? and where do I sign up to adopt one? OverBurn Apr 2025 #31
What about Carolina parakeets and passenger pigeons? NickB79 Apr 2025 #36
No one has ever cloned an animal that hatches from a shelled egg. cab67 Apr 2025 #37
Yes it's total BS. Informative write up! WarGamer Apr 2025 #39
Great post canetoad Apr 2025 #42
Never been to Vic. cab67 Apr 2025 #46
Thanks for the discussion. This is actually a topic I enjoy learning about. eppur_se_muova Apr 2025 #48
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