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whathehell

(30,148 posts)
25. Whatever your objection to the poster's objection,
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:00 PM
Yesterday

please do not tell them what they're intentions are or were...Doing so represents an attempt at mind reading, if not villifying, and is explicitly against the rules of the site.

As for the comment itself, please remember that the term "bitch" is just one of a plethora of slurs directed at human females, not just a sign of bad manners. Pretending otherwise ignores centuries of misogynistic oppression, and denies the "real historical weight and harm" behind the slurs it represents.

Yes, this racist's behavior was appalling, but the point is, it's no more related to her gender than bad behavior on the part of other marginalized peoples is related to their race or orientation. To claim otherwise is like saying it's "ok" to use the N word if the person being targeted is a bad person.

Insults must address character, not immutable characteristics of birth or orientation. Refusing to do that for everyone, makes us hypocrites.




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The hatred is so strong in this country Chasstev365 Yesterday #1
It says in the link that there was one al bupp Yesterday #2
Missed that! Chasstev365 Yesterday #3
From what I heard Dan Yesterday #5
Ugh! Chasstev365 Yesterday #6
That tells you all you need to know. sheshe2 Yesterday #102
Chrisitan groups as i understand it. IrishAfricanAmerican Yesterday #105
It is strong in our species. misanthrope Yesterday #80
Not to compare the two words, but many people would consider calling her a bitch as a slur EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #4
good point, we need to practice what we preach NT Tickle Yesterday #8
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Not really. It's very easy not to use a misogynistic slur when condemning MineralMan Yesterday #12
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As you might guess, I disagree. MineralMan Yesterday #19
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Misogyny also has a long, long history. MineralMan Yesterday #30
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if you're going to police the big words, you have to police the little words Blue_Adept Yesterday #34
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STOP PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLES MOUTH Blue_Adept Yesterday #53
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It is disheartening and disappointing that anyone posting on DU, even niyad Yesterday #78
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And, clearly, you have completely missed the point about misogyny, but niyad Yesterday #81
I absolutely agree. ShazzieB Yesterday #90
That, too. niyad Yesterday #91
Don;t you know they aren't "as bad" as other slurs? obamanut2012 Yesterday #99
Sadly, this is a battle we have been fighting for many years here. niyad Yesterday #103
Seriously? whathehell Yesterday #40
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Again, no one has said "all slurs are interchangeable whathehell Yesterday #59
I absolutely agree, and these are great suggestions. ShazzieB Yesterday #89
Yes. MineralMan Yesterday #113
I feel the term "Karen" is disgusting. hamsterjill Yesterday #38
Making "Karen " into a derogatory term is sexism questionseverything Yesterday #85
"Bigoted" would be appropriate. ShazzieB Yesterday #92
Whatever your objection to the poster's objection, whathehell Yesterday #25
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If anyone is responsible for shifting attention away from the horrible racist incident here, it is the person who tritsofme Yesterday #41
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What a bizarre exchange. Had the OP not used that slur, no one would be discussing anything but the original incident tritsofme Yesterday #57
I think you're backpeddling.. whathehell Yesterday #48
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Can you show me where I've "split a hair" or whathehell Yesterday #74
What utter and complete nonsense EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #32
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At what point did I say what your ascribing to me? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #43
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Your original complaint was that another poster was derailing a conversation. YOU have Scrivener7 Yesterday #61
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Whatever else you are, you're certainly the one who derailed this thread. Scrivener7 Yesterday #65
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Golly. Stop digging, dude. Scrivener7 Yesterday #67
The dude is very invested in this. I wonder why?! demmiblue Yesterday #68
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Sure, Man. demmiblue Yesterday #71
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A+ use of gif! ShazzieB Yesterday #94
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That's what YOU are doing, dude. So stop. Scrivener7 Yesterday #75
LOL, now he is sending me unsolicited DU mail. demmiblue Yesterday #73
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Wow, someone alerted on your post as a "personal attack". niyad Yesterday #84
So using a gendered slur mercuryblues Yesterday #62
Calling a women a bitch plays into patriarchy and demeans all females Pris Yesterday #116
Yes, that struck me, too. MineralMan Yesterday #11
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I've called plenty shitty fucking males and shitstain men a "*itch" whereas I have yet to call a single female the same. SoFlaBro Yesterday #45
That's what you're worried about? BannonsLiver Yesterday #20
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I can be worried about both. It's really not that hard EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #24
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99% of your posts in this thread are about this single thing instead of the actual OP Blue_Adept Yesterday #35
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yeah, I'm tapping out and adding to my block list. Blue_Adept Yesterday #54
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Except that you didn't mention both. BannonsLiver Yesterday #93
Bookmarking this thread, filing it under my Abolishinist Yesterday #60
100 percent BannonsLiver Yesterday #95
There are a whole lot of DUers that have no problem with misogynistic slurs.n/t demmiblue Yesterday #49
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Today's word is 'rationalize' Torchlight Yesterday #64
"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left" whathehell 6 hrs ago #123
You 100% should compare the two words obamanut2012 Yesterday #97
Men are called bitches, too synni Yesterday #115
Sure, and the occasional white person gets whathehell 23 hrs ago #119
Link to Brian Shapiro's take on this. mdbl Yesterday #7
Sinister profit is out of control, but this country COST OF HOUSING people gotta hustle to just stay not broke, gross. Brainfodder Yesterday #10
That Go Fund Me should be taken down. Fuck that racist POS. Initech Yesterday #13
A FASCIST fund raising group is collecting the money. AStern Yesterday #15
Fuck them too! Initech Yesterday #22
Her name is Shilo Hendricks. Maybe I missed it ... Whiskeytide Yesterday #16
Is the list of donors public? Stuckinthebush Yesterday #18
People can pay anonymously. Also the recipient of a gift does not have to pay taxes on it. The giver does. n/t Jacson6 Yesterday #44
I knew a woman once who insisted there were "good" African-Americans and "bad" African-Americans. Aristus Yesterday #27
How horrible! ShazzieB Yesterday #98
Just curious - is that taxable? TommyT139 Yesterday #29
Nope. Crowdfunding is considered a gift. BlueTsunami2018 Yesterday #36
Thanks TommyT139 Yesterday #72
When a person uses that word, they reveal their true self. And it's ugly. Walleye Yesterday #51
Just like when someone calls a woman a gendered slur, right? obamanut2012 Yesterday #100
Absolutely. Unfortunately, too many people don't mind, revealing the ugliness in their soul. Walleye Yesterday #108
This woman SHAMES my former home of 46 plus years. ProudMNDemocrat Yesterday #58
Seriously? "bitch" is acceptable? racism is not okay, but misogyny is? niyad Yesterday #82
I'm going to ignore all of the back and forth JustAnotherGen Yesterday #83
Call her a racist, call her an idiot, call her a hateful bigot, spooky3 Yesterday #86
No JustAnotherGen Yesterday #88
It's so odd to see people more offended by the word used in the OP than the actual incident. BannonsLiver Yesterday #104
Its why we lose JustAnotherGen 22 hrs ago #121
What do you call Clarence Thomas? delisen Yesterday #107
The Grifter JustAnotherGen 22 hrs ago #120
Calling that woman the B-word is insulting to female dogs IzzaNuDay Yesterday #87
You calling a woman a bitch is certainly a choice, isn't it? obamanut2012 Yesterday #96
No. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #118
There a lot of people who apparently live in sheltered bubbles or are totally old fashioned and/or out of touch. BannonsLiver Yesterday #101
Hate is always looking for a safe place to land. delisen Yesterday #106
I draw the line with MAGAts. BannonsLiver Yesterday #109
This thread really rings my door buzzard Bonx Yesterday #110
Obviously not your first rodeo! GoneOffShore Yesterday #112
Dear OP, please fix the heading Easterncedar Yesterday #111
NO. 634-5789 13 hrs ago #122
NBC'S site had a story about how the R word is making a comeback on podcasts. Boomerproud Yesterday #114
Here is some background and ways to help LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #117
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