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Bluetus

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52. Biden isn't the problem. He was/is a good man that the people kept electing
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:31 PM
May 2025

Last edited Fri May 16, 2025, 07:02 PM - Edit history (2)

The problem is that voters didn't believe Dems had any better leaders. You can't blame Biden for that. He gave many years of service to the country, with wisdom, patience, kindness, and mental stability.

He should not have been the candidate in 2020 or 2024, but evidently, he was the best we had. Don't blame Biden.

Americans have been extremely unhappy at least since 2005. Look at the Gallup poll of "right way, wrong way". Prior to 2025, it swung like a pendulum from 30% right way to 70% right way. And it wasn't always the same party with high "right way" marks.

But since 2025, it has never been anywhere near 50% right way, and has generally remained about 60-70% wrong way including when Obama and Biden were in the White House. Americans are angry as hell. They can't always say why, but they know this country is really fucked up. They don't know how or why, but they know it ain't right.

They absolutely hate the party of stern letters and "I told you so". They don't want compromises. They want fighters. And more than anything, they want a leader who will put forward a real plan of bold action.. I love Harris -- she was always my first choice. But she was in a box. With her short runway, she really didn't have time to sell a bold agenda, And if she tried, she would have faced the doubly whammy of undercutting Biden and being the angry black woman.

It was doomed.. Biden absolutely would have been destroyed. There was no viable fallback scenario -- Harris had to be the candidate. But she had no chance to define herself as a transformational figure. So she ran a milquetoast campaign -- executed to perfection -- absolutely not one blunder at any step of the way. But no ideas.

That's just the way it is. Here we are and we have no bold ideas. Trump has bold ideas. Tariffs will make us all rich, and we won't have to share the riches with the "illegals" because we're deporting all of them. That may be insane, but it is a bold plan, and Dems put absolutely no ideas up against that. Americans ALWAYS support the person with a bold plan and fire in the belly (even a crazy man with a crazy plan) when the alternative is no plan.

Biden had no bold ideas, but neither have any Dem candidates for 50 years. This is what the Carvilles of the world have given us for 50 years. When can we have a bold leader for our side?

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Democratic politicians need to markodochartaigh May 2025 #1
They're not going to do it. They're going to be asked and they're going to toss Biden under the bus. Self Esteem May 2025 #2
They can't. It was a mistake. And that debate was damaging because pinkstarburst May 2025 #57
Beto O'Rourke LookoutMtnWriter May 2025 #3
Sometimes Beto overstates an opinion. Still vote for him again, whatever office he wants. I'd ... marble falls May 2025 #4
Joe Biden didn't fail. He had a successful presidency that got many things done. brush May 2025 #5
My guess is Beto is saying he failed at stopping Trump... Self Esteem May 2025 #6
TSF won, but we never should've lost to a mofo who tried to overthrow his own government... brush May 2025 #7
No disagreement... Self Esteem May 2025 #8
I think so. We had/have such a deep bench of great candidates... brush May 2025 #12
And those candidates should have been given the chance to run in the '24 primaries. elocs May 2025 #26
Agreed. A proper primary and long campaign, IMO we would've won. brush May 2025 #51
"Who only ran to stay out of jail"---well, it worked, didn't it? n/t elocs May 2025 #25
We all know that. Tell us something we don't know. brush May 2025 #49
Too many stayed home. They did that when Hillary ran, Meadowoak May 2025 #31
You have that absolutely correct! hamsterjill May 2025 #48
That's a sad analysis. Doesn't bode well for women candidate. brush May 2025 #50
If that's the context, Biden has said the same thing. EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #43
However, there was no guarantee that stepping down earlier would have led to a better outcome karynnj May 2025 #53
His presidency was successful in terms of legislative accomplishments fujiyamasan May 2025 #23
Gleeful Prairie Gates May 2025 #9
Just to be clear Beto loses a lot Johonny May 2025 #10
He has a great deal to say about local iemanja May 2025 #39
They're calling it Sleepygate BeyondGeography May 2025 #11
Biden is not running. Let's move on. mzmolly May 2025 #13
People who dump on Joe are looking backward. GUARANTEED LOSE, LOSE, LOSE. usonian May 2025 #14
Apparently there are a lot of people who don't care what you think, or me either for that matter. elocs May 2025 #28
Kick this post Hekate May 2025 #56
I believe you are correct in that the pain ahead feels inevitable. Maru Kitteh May 2025 #15
When Beto actually wins a statewide election, I'll worry what he thinks JT45242 May 2025 #16
Who has? iemanja May 2025 #40
Post removed Post removed May 2025 #17
Deep. n/t elocs May 2025 #29
And people will be pissed if this happens. hamsterjill May 2025 #18
You are not alone. All this Biden bashing makes me sick. 3catwoman3 May 2025 #44
I don't think so iemanja May 2025 #19
Biden should tell America to "KISS MY ASS!!!" Montauk6 May 2025 #20
If he tries real hard, Beto could be Brainworm Bobby 2.0 Hassler May 2025 #21
BTW, Beto gave a very good interview on the Bullwark iemanja May 2025 #22
Biden's average approval rating was 42.2%--the 2nd worse of post WWII presidents, elocs May 2025 #24
It serves no purpose to drag Joe's entrails down main street. Is there a lesson there? Yes... BurnDoubt May 2025 #30
You all complained about polls in the 2024 iemanja May 2025 #38
WTF Skittles May 2025 #33
Pod Save America is run by former Obama iemanja May 2025 #41
I said ESPECIALLY Skittles May 2025 #42
If you sat out an election, sit down and shut up and quit trolling for the Shitheads. IT'S NOT HELPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BurnDoubt May 2025 #27
WHY is he even a topic of discussion? Skittles May 2025 #32
Not interested in candidates who take the bait. delisen May 2025 #34
they should throw it back in their faces Skittles May 2025 #36
Thought this was about Flouride madville May 2025 #35
"Nobody fucks with a Biden." betsuni May 2025 #37
Teeth are done anyway without fluoride JCMach1 May 2025 #45
I doubt it BannonsLiver May 2025 #46
Whatever problems my teeth might have, they won't be ground down by Biden Bashing. DFW May 2025 #47
Biden isn't the problem. He was/is a good man that the people kept electing Bluetus May 2025 #52
Thank you for your post, especially the part about Kamala! You are exactly right about what happened to her! CTyankee May 2025 #54
IMO the best President of my lifetime mvd May 2025 #55
We had fluoride in our water when I was growing up and my teeth are fine... madinmaryland May 2025 #58
And conversely, my partner grew up on a farm with well water (no flouride) Bluetus May 2025 #60
I was going to say don't live in Florida or Texas. Aristus May 2025 #59
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