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NNadir

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34. There is hell to pay on this website to say anything negative about pot.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jun 18, 2025, 04:20 PM

Jun 18

I've been there, done that.

Usually one can queue up "alcohol is worse" responses which to me is a kind of logic that one would use to declare that breast cancer is OK because pancreatic cancer is worse.

The link on this yahoo news item is broken, but there are many scientific papers on this topic. One I just downloaded is Nature Reviews Cardiology Vol. 22 2025, 467-481.

My nephew has struggled with a pot problem exacerbated by clinical depression. It has broken my heart. I am one very pleased uncle that he seems to have recently kicked the habit and found his way into a career in HVAC contract work. I hope he sticks with it.

I hate pot. This does not mean I want people jailed for it, just that I abhor it's use.

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Marijuana use dramatically increases risk of dying from heart attacks and stroke, large study finds [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 18 OP

200 million people ? dweller Jun 18 #1

Did they take diet into consideration? MagickMuffin Jun 18 #2

I'm sure you were the first to suggest that a longitudinal study of heart health Prairie Gates Jun 18 #3

If this were true, I would've died in the 70s SheltieLover Jun 18 #26

Yep, likewise MagickMuffin Jun 18 #39

Repukes are so upset about weed...until they find a way to profit from it. SheltieLover Jun 19 #43

Do not confuse an increased likelihood with certainty. Happy Hoosier Jun 19 #41

Exactly. Avoid binary thinking vigilantly. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 20 #80

Forget diet... appmanga Jun 18 #37

I'm a user and in Faux pas Jun 20 #77

We have similar experiences MagickMuffin Jun 20 #78

Those of us who Faux pas Jun 21 #90

It's not the MJ, it's the Funyuns and Cheetos that does everyone in. (NSFW) TheBlackAdder Jun 21 #88

Another article brought to you by big pharma. leftyladyfrommo Jun 18 #4

But couldn't both be true ? JI7 Jun 18 #6

Please don't disregard results off-hang because... Happy Hoosier Jun 19 #42

I read them. I have smoked since I was 20. leftyladyfrommo Jun 19 #45

Which is why we made brownies. Dixiegrrrl Jun 21 #91

I know, Willie Nelson died so young. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 18 #5

George Burns lived to a ripe old age synni Jun 18 #16

George Burns loved smoking cigars and drinking whiskey. Emile Jun 21 #81

And given the anecdotal evidence that he lived a long time EdmondDantes_ Jun 21 #85

If cannabis was illegal, do you think that would stop people from using it? Emile Jun 21 #87

"We're all going to die" maxsolomon Jun 18 #7

Whoopee we're all going to die - country joe! Blues Heron Jun 18 #11

"You'll die from what we make you die from!" durablend Jun 18 #24

Was there a difference in smoking or edibles? dem4decades Jun 18 #8

Seems to be worse The Revolution Jun 18 #25

Yikes, that's not fun. dem4decades Jun 18 #36

Interesting. Ms. Toad Jun 20 #59

Edibles? Blues Heron Jun 18 #9

When I smoke, my heart rate rises more than when I exercise. Gore1FL Jun 18 #10

Consider vaping dry herb. No combustion, no extraction chems, no vape liquid carrier chems. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #14

I vouch for this Beausoleil Jun 18 #18

Extraction Does Not Leave Behind Solvents ProfessorGAC Jun 18 #20

Thanks for the physical chemistry. Makes sense. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 19 #40

I'll... 2naSalit Jun 18 #12

Lifestyle correlation? Article does not discuss methodology. Munchies? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #13

I wonder which pharma company paid for this "study". nt ImNotGod Jun 18 #15

None, according to the study itself The Revolution Jun 18 #27

While the authors haven't said, somebody paid. Kid Berwyn Jun 19 #46

Published: February 28, 2024 justaprogressive Jun 18 #17

Edibles increase MY heart rate and blood pressure Ponietz Jun 18 #19

It will be interesting to see if other ways to consume cannabis... keep_left Jun 18 #21

See post 25 MichMan Jun 20 #50

Thanks for the info. Strange that edibles seem to be worse... keep_left Jun 20 #74

This study doesn't establish cannabis as a cause misanthrope Jun 18 #22

Actually didn"t show it at all. They think it's linked. Blue Full Moon Jun 18 #23

Just spray Round up on your food & eat it... SheltieLover Jun 18 #28

I don't have because the farmers already do that for me! Jacson6 Jun 20 #67

I don't give a shit. SamKnause Jun 18 #29

I'm going to save time and call bullshit now. -misanthroptimist Jun 18 #30

"Oh, WOW, man"!--Tommy Chong. "What he said!"--Cheech Marin RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 18 #31

It's been around forever NOW it's a hazard? I don't believe it. live love laugh Jun 18 #32

might depend on amount used and form...smoke, eat, drink herb tea etc msongs Jun 18 #33

There is hell to pay on this website to say anything negative about pot. NNadir Jun 18 #34

As someone who is in 24/7 unrelenting, chronic pain usedtobedemgurl Jun 21 #83

Like I say, I always have to take crap for my position. Heroin is an excellent treatment for pain, but I abhor it too. NNadir Jun 21 #84

I am sorry if you feel I am giving you crap for your opinion. usedtobedemgurl Jun 21 #86

I assume this is just about smoking pot. intheflow Jun 18 #35

See post 25 MichMan Jun 20 #51

Me & my atypical reactions, LOL Had some minor heart issues. Also little sleep from spinal arthritis pain. Attilatheblond Jun 18 #38

Im not a scientist so i wont agree or dispute this. Samael13 Jun 19 #44

This is from what use to be CNN more faux than faux news. Blue Full Moon Jun 19 #47

I'm pro-pot and smoked it in my younger days but electricmonk Jun 19 #48

And this my friends is why you use edibles TacosUberAlles Jun 19 #49

You can dip regular weed to underpants Jun 20 #52

You can? TacosUberAlles Jun 20 #62

My understanding of THC is that it is generally heat-activated misanthrope Jun 20 #68

It works for me. underpants Jun 20 #70

Decarboxylation. For best results, decarb before cooking, to ensure decarb, though some cooking methods don't need it Bernardo de La Paz Jun 20 #79

Yes. Looked it up. Guess I'm not supposed to. underpants Jun 20 #71

I am also an Alpha-1 misanthrope Jun 20 #57

Oh wow TacosUberAlles Jun 20 #61

I have only met one other Alpha-1 in person misanthrope Jun 20 #65

It's really from the crap munchies folks eat after using*. flvegan Jun 20 #53

Not a big fan of Yahoo news. Emile Jun 20 #54

Willy, Snoop Traildogbob Jun 20 #55

No surprise. The MJ of now isn't the MJ of the 1960s-1970s. valleyrogue Jun 20 #56

LMAO aocommunalpunch Jun 20 #63

Shouldn't that mean that you have to smoke less of it misanthrope Jun 20 #69

So using your judgemental logic, keeping it illegal Emile Jun 20 #72

Maybe it's not the weed, but the unhealthy snack food? Attilatheblond Jun 20 #58

Good to know SSJVegeta Jun 20 #60

We are all going to die of something, sometime. Jacson6 Jun 20 #64

According to this BS study I should have died in 1970. Emile Jun 20 #66

My hubby would have died by now Tree Lady Jun 20 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 20 #75

Everyone is different but all of my cousins who used mj (heavily) ecstatic Jun 20 #76

As we get older, we are more likely to die from... Chemical Bill Jun 21 #82

The denialism is familiar DavidDvorkin Jun 21 #89