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279. The problem with the angry, vocal, uber-Left in this country ...

Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:03 AM

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is that almost all of these people thinks/believes that everyone in the U.S. thinks and believes just like they do. They ardently think and believe and adamantly and vociferously argue that everyone in this diverse country accepts their "ideology" on matters like "guns;" "abortion;" "women's rights;" "school prayer;" "gay issues;" "trans issues;" "social welfare;" "Medicare;" "Medicaid;" "housing;" "reparations for slavery;" "immigration;" "the environment;" "pollution;" "climate change;" etc., et al. The problem is that anyone, even a hero like Dylan, who doesn't "goosestep" to their tune is branded by them as some unholy deviant (and Trump lover/supporter) whom they endlessly, erroneously and mercilessly castigate -- just like Dylan here. No fucking thanks to this shit! None of us need it nor want it.

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We really shouldn't pay any homage to Bob Dylan here anymore [View all] wolfie001 Jun 29 OP

*Just a quick note: wolfie001 Jun 29 #1

First I knew. I'm done with Dylan then. Captain Zero Jun 29 #2

Thank You! wolfie001 Jun 29 #3

Yup, the answer my friend is blowin in the wind... I'm done too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 29 #82

Well said!!! wolfie001 Jun 29 #112

Doesn't bother me a bit Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #4

Keep denying what's in front of your own eyes wolfie001 Jun 29 #6

Recording a song written by a gay man for a Reagan biopic isn't an endorsement of Reagan's evils Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #14

He doesn't really deserve any more accolades from us Dems wolfie001 Jun 29 #16

OK. I've read enough to try to discern vanlassie Jun 29 #96

Yes, if you came to the conclusion that he just doesn't give a f6ck wolfie001 Jun 29 #102

Google Sundown On The Union by Bob Dylan. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #183

"Union Sundown" and "Workingman's Blues #2" tetedur Jun 30 #208

I'm a Union man, worked a Union job and retired on a Union pension wolfie001 Jul 1 #216

FYI, Dan Lauria was in the movie playing Tip O'Neill Wiz Imp Jun 30 #206

He's not the greatest lyricist in the last 100 years synni Jun 29 #66

If you say so Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #67

Hey, hey there's no need to group arcade fire and Radiohead fujiyamasan Jun 29 #87

I just picked the first three.. Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #122

Sprawl 2 is an amazing song so phht. JanMichael Jun 30 #138

RH is overrated? wolfie001 Jun 30 #162

I'm not mad at Radiohead Fiendish Thingy Jun 30 #181

"Please don't embarrass me motherfucker..." SC rubbersole Jun 30 #142

'Creep" is iconic wolfie001 Jun 30 #161

Creep was plagiarized from the Hollies "the Air That I Breathe" Fiendish Thingy Jun 30 #179

Hey, aren't they British? wolfie001 Jul 1 #233

Bob Dylan TnDem Jun 29 #83

I heard Bernie voted for trump too. A-Schwarzenegger Jun 29 #89

This must be snark wolfie001 Jun 29 #103

lol wolfie001 Jun 30 #160

Who are the greatest lyricists of the past one hundred years? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #184

My favorite live version of Hurricane. it's a work of art DoBW Jun 29 #81

Brilliant performance. Thanks for posting it! highplainsdem Jun 29 #133

The whole gig .... DoBW Jun 30 #186

He loved President Obama, talked him up at some of his concerts, and received the Medal of Freedom from him. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #180

He's not MAGA Fiendish Thingy Jun 30 #182

I don't believe he's MAGA wolfie001 Jul 1 #213

He's not BannonsLiver Jun 30 #190

Send this over to the OP DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #197

He isn't MAGA, and in fact does not believe in politics or labels, and people will find he says very little about lostincalifornia Jul 1 #254

To me markodochartaigh Jun 29 #5

Thank you!!! wolfie001 Jun 29 #8

It's not up to celebrities to save democracy - that's our job. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #15

As an American, I beg to differ wolfie001 Jun 29 #17

You seem to think some hands are more important than others Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #22

Saying something pro Freedom into his microphone..... wolfie001 Jun 29 #23

re: artists TnDem Jun 29 #39

It can't be held against him for not speaking out. He stopped protest music nearly 60 years ago. Also... themaguffin Jun 30 #195

dont get me started on raygun and what he did to ca and sag aftra. took us years to recover from his bs. AllaN01Bear Jun 29 #7

The asshole worked hand-in -hand with Senator McCarthy for christo-psycho sakes!!! wolfie001 Jun 29 #11

I remember finding out a few decades ago that he was suffering from I got mine to hell with you syndrome. nt ImNotGod Jun 29 #9

Yes! My personal, "He's a greedy asshole" detector is bleeping quite loudly wolfie001 Jun 29 #12

Isn't he really old ? Maybe he is too tired to do anything JI7 Jun 29 #10

He wasn't that old when the fat orange imbecile rode the elevator down in the tRUMP Tower (2015) wolfie001 Jun 29 #13

Joan Baez and Neil Young are really old too DBoon Jun 29 #18

Those 2 are great folk singers I respect! wolfie001 Jun 30 #148

I have no Dylan worship beyond respecting his musical past; but we are upset because he allowed song in a Reagan movie? hlthe2b Jun 29 #19

I guess his not lifting a finger in opposition to rayguns and tRUMP is "No biggie" wolfie001 Jun 29 #21

You did not read my full post, obviously because I addressed what appears to be his lack of response to Trump, BUT hlthe2b Jun 29 #24

I saw an interview Quaid gave discussing tRUMP and...... wolfie001 Jun 29 #109

"F6ck Bob Dylan!" A-Schwarzenegger Jun 29 #76

6 is also a Cyrillic letter nocoincidences Jun 29 #88

I took it as a sub for u. A-Schwarzenegger Jun 29 #90

I have been throwing out the expletives frequently here lately wolfie001 Jun 29 #110

Ironically, Neil Young was a huge Bonzo fan at the time... regnaD kciN Jun 29 #31

Correct. Neil Young, for some inexplicable reason was a supporter of Reagan himself Wiz Imp Jun 29 #49

He probably had Union relatives that got hammered wolfie001 Jun 29 #113

Neil also has the advantage of being a lot more enjoyable to listen to than Dylan BeyondGeography Jul 1 #227

I was a young idiot when 'Heart of Stone' was released wolfie001 Jul 1 #235

I love them both but at some point I realized I listened to Neil more than anyone BeyondGeography Jul 1 #238

I'll have to do a deep dive wolfie001 Jul 1 #240

That's a matter of taste Retrograde Jul 1 #278

He might be a Trumper or he might not be newdeal2 Jun 29 #20

"As vocal"? Really? wolfie001 Jun 29 #25

If there's one thing about Bob Dylan that I can assure you, or anyone else for that matter Docreed2003 Jun 29 #26

I only saw Babs and "old bob" wolfie001 Jun 29 #114

So the thing that got you so hopping mad was a thread that just mentioned Dylan's name muriel_volestrangler Jun 30 #191

I think BD is so far above ANY of the other musicians who performed on that "thing" wolfie001 Jul 1 #224

Just stop orangecrush Jun 29 #27

If he ever says something to support freedom and/or Democracy and/or women's rights wolfie001 Jun 29 #117

Why Is He Obligated RobinA Jun 30 #199

My guess would be that he does not speak out because he recognizes that LuckyCharms Jun 29 #28

OP's rant-a-thon sounds a lot more personal than political. A-Schwarzenegger Jun 29 #86

Not really. I love "Shelter From the Storm"! wolfie001 Jun 30 #149

Naw, I dont think you really give a hoot about Dylan either way. A-Schwarzenegger Jun 30 #200

It's the second time I've said something about BD's silence wolfie001 Jul 1 #222

i feel your pain, man. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 1 #228

Truly an enigmatic character! wolfie001 Jul 1 #232

I think you have put your finger right on it Hekate Jul 4 #289

Guess he blew with the wind Aviation Pro Jun 29 #29

There is not one iota of evidence mcar Jun 29 #59

LOL! You're so CORRECT!!! wolfie001 Jun 30 #150

"I think he pulled the lever for tRUMP in Nov. 2024" flvegan Jun 29 #30

Exactly. Smearing by inference... Now who else does that? hlthe2b Jun 29 #33

Sitting on the sidelines and never saying anything about tRUMP since he rode down the escalator in 2015 wolfie001 Jun 30 #154

Well, I agree that your making assumptions based on an absence of evidence is very much like the hlthe2b Jun 30 #171

It's a hard rain a gonna fall. gab13by13 Jun 29 #32

Are we still allowed to say "chillin' like Dylan" or is that verboten too? Blues Heron Jun 29 #34

You should only use the expression after you finish filing your taxes correctly wolfie001 Jun 30 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jun 29 #35

I don't care Texasgal Jun 29 #36

I do wolfie001 Jun 30 #164

It's always been Dylan's style... Mike Nelson Jun 29 #37

Hurricane Mike Nelson Jun 29 #40

Bob wrote H2O Man Jun 29 #42

Ah... Mike Nelson Jun 29 #45

Bob was close H2O Man Jun 29 #50

Thank you... Mike Nelson Jun 29 #57

It was cast H2O Man Jun 29 #61

I seriously doubt that Wiz Imp Jun 29 #53

Here's a clue: H2O Man Jun 29 #60

Interesting that Jacques Levy himself has seemed to contradict your claim Wiz Imp Jun 29 #64

Er, not at all. H2O Man Jun 29 #65

🙂‍↔️😏🙄 Wiz Imp Jun 29 #94

It's okay. H2O Man Jun 29 #106

Maybe you can get Charlie Kirk to autograph some memorabilia from the "masterful rayguns doc" wolfie001 Jun 29 #99

Good gravy Hekate Jun 29 #38

There would seem to be H2O Man Jun 29 #43

IKR!? sheshe2 Jun 29 #93

When he's covered in dirt, I'll forgive him wolfie001 Jun 29 #104

I think thats a leap Samael13 Jun 29 #41

Bob Dylan owes you nothing TheProle Jun 29 #44

And he can go fuck off. Oh, and JK Rowling too wolfie001 Jun 29 #100

Nah, to have hurt my feelings TheProle Jun 29 #132

Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #135

Don't care if it "gains traction" here wolfie001 Jun 30 #145

Then why are you beating it to a bloody pulp? What the hell? Are you going to hang around telling us about ... Hekate Jul 3 #288

I love things that are unintentionally hilarious. BannonsLiver Jun 29 #46

Thanks for the reality check. Mike 03 Jun 29 #48

Speaking of unintentionally hilarious... Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #71

I just keep imagining the OP having this conversation with somebody. BannonsLiver Jun 30 #143

I just visit DU and vent wolfie001 Jun 30 #158

Bless your heart. BannonsLiver Jun 30 #205

lol wolfie001 Jul 1 #214

Can't wait to see the next totally irrational takedown! BannonsLiver Jul 1 #256

C'mon man? lol wolfie001 Jul 1 #267

No seriously! BannonsLiver Jul 1 #269

That astrological cray cray? wolfie001 Jul 1 #270

You need to go after Fred Rogers Wolfie! BannonsLiver Jul 1 #271

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Jun 30 #210

I gotta admit this thread has me chuckling fujiyamasan Jun 29 #92

It's even better when the lead is nuttier than squirrel shit. BannonsLiver Jun 30 #137

I'm just happy you read it and maybe see some of the disconnect associated with his public persona wolfie001 Jun 30 #151

Oh I see plenty of disconnect alright. BannonsLiver Jun 30 #209

Again, lol wolfie001 Jul 1 #215

It's very hard to believe the man who wrote "Caribbean Wind" and "Brownsville Girl" Mike 03 Jun 29 #47

Would be nice if he presented a shred of insight wolfie001 Jun 30 #152

Wolfie who? Itchinjim Jun 29 #51

Judas! BluesRunTheGame Jun 29 #54

Well now you know! wolfie001 Jun 30 #153

I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table and say... BluesRunTheGame Jun 29 #52

And what about Ersel Hickey? Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #70

It's gonna be a pretty long list. BluesRunTheGame Jun 29 #74

What!?!? Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #75

It's possible that he's Ted Nugent's bass player... BluesRunTheGame Jun 29 #77

It must be true, because I read it on the internet... Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #78

Really, if you're an artist and having spoken out publicly about the nazi tRUMP regime..... wolfie001 Jul 1 #217

Purity Control OC375 Jun 29 #55

A simple sentence, something wolfie001 Jul 1 #231

Bob Dylan is an asshole with no principles Mysterian Jun 29 #56

Sure TnDem Jun 29 #85

Not all of us Mysterian Jun 29 #95

The whole story behind "The Band's" royalty contracts wolfie001 Jun 29 #121

THANK YOU!!! wolfie001 Jun 29 #98

You think he voted for FOTUS? mcar Jun 29 #58

There is Zero evidence Bob Dylan has ever supported Donald Trump Wiz Imp Jun 29 #62

Don't let truth and reality get in the way of a vigorous recreational outrage session. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #68

Everyone with any amount of empathy reacted as BD did to that murder wolfie001 Jul 1 #239

As if your previous rantings weren't enough, you just showed how serious anyone should take anything Wiz Imp Jul 1 #242

I guess it's just too hard on the feels wolfie001 Jul 1 #244

75. Sad 🙄😖😱🤯🤐 Wiz Imp Jul 1 #246

Well, you read this thread wolfie001 Jul 1 #247

I wish we didn't learn about their politics TinyBlueDot Jun 29 #63

Dude was drugging himself and working with Nixon's anti-drug campaign wolfie001 Jun 30 #156

He's dead to me! egduj Jun 29 #69

Yeah, I don't care about this silly original post and will continue to listen to Dylan's music. themaguffin Jun 30 #194

Maybe one of his handlers will read the post and he'll say a word or two wolfie001 Jul 1 #265

I think that it's stupid that he would be involved in the Reagan movie, but it's not enough to fume about. themaguffin Jul 2 #284

It's silly to assume Dylan voted for Trump. Also silly to cite a hallucinating chatbot like Google's AI highplainsdem Jun 29 #72

Agreed SheltieLover Jun 29 #73

What you fail to grasp is the totality of the situation in the US right now wolfie001 Jun 29 #107

What about the surviving Beatles? And Yoko? Fiendish Thingy Jun 29 #124

2 Brits and a Japanese person? Why can't we focus on "old bob the rebel-free spirit"? wolfie001 Jun 30 #146

They all live in the US Fiendish Thingy Jun 30 #178

I'm still miffed on how she broke up the Fabulous 4! wolfie001 Jul 1 #236

What I "fail to grasp"? You've been here nearly as long as I have, but have posted only 1/10 as much. highplainsdem Jun 29 #131

Thanks for noticing! wolfie001 Jul 1 #237

"Pardon me but get it through your thick skull please..." That kind of nasty personal attack shouldn't be highplainsdem Jul 1 #241

Post removed Post removed Jul 1 #245

It's clear you think your nastiness is cute and that you enjoy baiting people. Your kind of behavior highplainsdem Jul 1 #249

Let's see wolfie001 Jul 1 #252

An OP that's an AI summary? No thanks. chia Jun 29 #79

I have no dog in this fight Keepthesoulalive Jun 29 #80

OH fer ch's sake! elleng Jun 29 #84

Really? Renew Deal Jun 29 #91

This song seems highly appropriate. Tarzanrock Jun 29 #97

You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding. nt scipan Jun 29 #101

NOT EVERYONE can be Bruce Springsteen..... ! Jack Valentino Jun 29 #105

these lyrics remind me of every MAGAt I know Skittles Jun 29 #115

Bruce is a fearless hero rebel wolfie001 Jun 30 #165

Here's another Dylan song that predicted today, listen to the lyrics gab13by13 Jun 29 #108

One of my favorite Dylan songs, along with this one: MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #120

So here's my take, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #111

So I guess that we should now smear the late Tom Petty because he used Confederate flags MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #116

If he were still alive right now, I think he would've retired that flag wolfie001 Jun 29 #119

Maybe, maybe not MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #123

That's from 1985 or so wolfie001 Jun 29 #125

I don't know and neither do you, after all, he is dead, so he can't say whether or not he would. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #126

Corrected my spelling. lol wolfie001 Jun 30 #147

He already did, long before his death. Tommy Carcetti Jun 30 #174

There is a tell who hates Dylan gab13by13 Jun 29 #118

Maybe when he read and saw the hate, he shied away instead of speaking out against it wolfie001 Jun 30 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Jun 29 #127

So what if he's a rich dude, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #134

And he switched from nylon strings to steel strings... LastDemocratInSC Jun 29 #128

LOL!! MarineCombatEngineer Jun 29 #129

! Kali Jun 30 #185

You do you. I'll do me. NBachers Jun 29 #130

lol wolfie001 Jun 30 #167

You found way to distract a certain demographic from criticizing others as nonsensical or kooks Ilikepurple Jun 30 #136

God, that show was so great! wolfie001 Jun 30 #168

I've always thought Dylan was over hyped GenThePerservering Jun 30 #139

Purity Testing Bob Dylan? Give me a break! comradebillyboy Jun 30 #140

Just wondering why he hasn't thrown anyone a "life-preserver"....... wolfie001 Jun 30 #170

Dylan never claimed to be a revolutionary. delisen Jun 30 #141

I grew up during his era. That IS NOT how he was presented in the media wolfie001 Jun 30 #144

I grew up in the 60's, played in a band even. gab13by13 Jun 30 #157

I of course would welcome any former republican that turned Democratic wolfie001 Jun 30 #159

I know that this thread is about Bob johnnyfins Jun 30 #155

I didn't even realize the movie hasn't come out yet wolfie001 Jun 30 #169

It's already been released, like a year ago. BannonsLiver Jun 30 #188

The rating for the movie on rotten tomatoes is 18% Wiz Imp Jun 30 #201

That will keep me smiling ALL WEEK!!! wolfie001 Jul 1 #220

For the OP and those who agree, where do you shop? Which supermarket? Which online stores? Doodley Jun 30 #172

I shop Union grocery wolfie001 Jul 1 #219

That's very impressive! Everything you wrote, including losing weight and the wedding suit still fitting! Congrats! Doodley Jul 1 #223

Love that! wolfie001 Jul 1 #225

He had me at "Masters of War" MineralMan Jun 30 #173

I'll probably just keep separating the art and the artist Torchlight Jun 30 #175

I stopped listening to Clapton when I realized he doesn't just 'appropriate', he steals. GoneOffShore Jul 1 #226

Bayreuth Wagner? wolfie001 Jul 1 #234

No one can be apolitical anymore. Not now. paleotn Jun 30 #176

Not everyone's going to be an activist. Tommy Carcetti Jun 30 #177

IMO Bob Dylan has always been over-rated and a bit of an asshole. Happy Hoosier Jun 30 #187

Update: The comments are equally unintentionally hilarious! BannonsLiver Jun 30 #189

Oh ok everybody someone on the Internet "thinks" something about Dylan, so go burn your records. Oof. themaguffin Jun 30 #192

Yeah, if Bob comes around here wanting any homage he can pay for it himself. betsuni Jun 30 #193

This was certainly a way to kill a few minutes during lunch Blue_Adept Jun 30 #196

He should e-mail his representatives about his animus towards Bob Dylan. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #198

Why stop with an email? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 30 #203

It would probably be more helpful ... Tarzanrock Jun 30 #204

What if he did it simultaneously? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 1 #243

Not really personal. Ironically, I loved the man when I was younger wolfie001 Jul 1 #221

Dylan 'overhyped' -- yeah, sure! Tarzanrock Jun 30 #202

I never said he was over-hyped wolfie001 Jul 1 #263

I guess we need to boycott Anthony Hopkins as well Wiz Imp Jun 30 #207

I got "a hint" for you: wolfie001 Jul 1 #218

I liked his work with Johnny Cash. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 30 #211

Johnny Cash left us too early to work with him, but we stole some of his DNA just in case DFW Jul 1 #230

Dylan can't be categorized. Don't Fence Him In. Just Listen. thought crime Jul 1 #212

I listen to U2 and they seem involved. Many others too wolfie001 Jul 1 #268

Original post is a 'stretch' by any definition. Joinfortmill Jul 1 #229

At this point, if listening to Bob Dylan gives someone Bettie Jul 1 #248

Of course wolfie001 Jul 1 #250

This has really become a "Look at meeee!" clusterf*ck. Heidi Jul 1 #251

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jul 1 #253

The complete lack of self awareness is the best part. BannonsLiver Jul 1 #255

It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Heidi Jul 1 #257

I said that in another post on this thread. BannonsLiver Jul 1 #258

When we know better, we do better. Heidi Jul 1 #259

I tried. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 1 #260

Y'all are like the Dem version of Susan Collins wolfie001 Jul 1 #262

On Old DU, that post would have been gone in 30 seconds. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 1 #273

Me? Being edgy? wolfie001 Jul 1 #261

Never thought I'd see the day when people on this site would dump on Dylan. ificandream Jul 1 #264

Pretty sure we're already back in the 1950s at this point wolfie001 Jul 1 #266

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 1 #272

Fella could use a break. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 1 #274

I think we all could at this point lol BannonsLiver Jul 1 #275

lol indeed A-Schwarzenegger Jul 1 #276

He has been rightwing since the 60s IbogaProject Jul 1 #277

The problem with the angry, vocal, uber-Left in this country ... Tarzanrock Jul 2 #279

Bull shit ... marble falls Jul 2 #280

Poor OP's done gone. A-Schwarzenegger Jul 2 #282

Why was he so popular, anyway? kudzukimchi Jul 2 #281

which lyricists impress the properly educated, in your estimation? thebigidea Jul 2 #283

Ph.D. in American Literature here. RedArkGuy Jul 2 #285

Jesus, what a thread. You mean this guy? https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220454643#post15 Hekate Jul 3 #286

Thanks, Hekate & Wiz Imp! A-Schwarzenegger Jul 3 #287