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In reply to the discussion: Trump drowned those girls at camp in Texas. [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(166,442 posts)112. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.
ð¨ NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas
— MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-07-06T04:33:59.776Z
Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecastersâ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.
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Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....
The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.
The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr Countys apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......
The National Weather Services San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Fridays flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.
The Weather Services nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.
That offices warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......
John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy, he said......
An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.
You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials, Dr. Uccellini said. It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.
But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......
Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called tabletop operations planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.
But the Trump administrations pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.
The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.
The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr Countys apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......
The National Weather Services San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Fridays flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.
The Weather Services nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.
That offices warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......
John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy, he said......
An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.
You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials, Dr. Uccellini said. It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.
But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......
Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called tabletop operations planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.
But the Trump administrations pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.
I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.
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Gutting funding for NOAA and NWS will result in more senseless deaths such as this.
ProudMNDemocrat
Jul 5
#1
Hope it's soon. Although I don't think a hurricane will suddenly show up unforcast on our shores. We'll still have
Silent Type
Jul 5
#64
Souinds like Texas government trying to blame everyone but themselves. Guy said 4" to 8" rain was forecasted.
Silent Type
Jul 5
#7
I would think they would have evacuated the camp as soon as that forecast came up.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
Jul 5
#23
Shh... The storm blew in from The Gulf of America on the same day as Dear Leader was wearing his hat.
Hugin
Jul 5
#21
They have never acknowledged or understood that the reason they have any quality of life at all is because they are...
Hugin
Jul 5
#34
No Joke. Sounds like they had plenty of warning, just didn't get camping kids, etc., out of the way.
Silent Type
Jul 5
#18
that is the thing. My understanding is that this area had experienced 7 to 8 inch rainfall in the past
yellowdogintexas
Jul 5
#77
... Nim holds advanced degrees in public administration and cybersecurity law ...
struggle4progress
Jul 5
#65
In almost all professional fields you get what you pay for. You want a dollar answer, pay a dollar -
c-rational
Jul 5
#27
Isn't there a danger of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Where eventually the voters start tuning out legitimate denunciations
Midwestern Democrat
Jul 6
#108
I would also blame Texas and their lack of regulations that allowed a camp for kids to be built in
Vinca
Jul 5
#48
Texas Officials are blaming trump for the loss of life due to these floods
LetMyPeopleVote
Jul 5
#56
Daughters from fairly well off, CHRISTIAN, families. I see a class action suit coming
Attilatheblond
Jul 5
#62
Is Krasnov going to go Kerr County, TX and pose with some 1st responders or @ a hospital and do his
Botany
Jul 5
#63
The ideological dismantling of NOAA and NWS begins on page 674 of Project 2025 and is well underway.
LetMyPeopleVote
Jul 5
#79
I live in a similar area. When weather report says we'll get 2" of snow, I prepare for at least 6"
Silent Type
Jul 6
#98
The Guadalupe, just another Fifth Avenue to Trump. He'd laugh tossing paper towels to those little girls
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Jul 6
#103
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
LetMyPeopleVote
Jul 6
#112