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Wiz Imp

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14. I've looked for the size of the cages but came up empty so far. Anyone else seen or heard the size reported?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 08:37 PM
Jul 12
https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2016/07/how_to_calculate_crowd_estimat.html#:~:text=In%20a%20loose%20crowd%2C%20a,occupies%20about%204.5%20square%20feet.

How many square feet does a person take?
In a loose crowd, a person occupies roughly 10 square feet. This means each person is about an arm's length from the body of the next person. In a more tightly packed crowd, a person occupies about 4.5 square feet.


The media reports have said there are 32 beds per cage. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said 34. Regardless once you account for the space the beds take up, if you've seen any picture from inside the place, there doesn't seem to be much excess space to move around.

As for the conditions, here's a few other media reports beyond the one included in the OP.
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/detained-immigrants-alligator-alcatraz-say-worms-in-food-wastewater-on-floor/3866748/
At the brand new Everglades immigration detention center that officials have dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz,” people held there say worms turn up in the food. Toilets don't flush, flooding floors with fecal waste, and mosquitoes and other insects are everywhere.

Inside the compound's large white tents, rows of bunkbeds are surrounded by chain-link cages. Detainees are said to go days without showering or getting prescription medicine, and they are only able to speak by phone to lawyers and loved ones. At times the air conditioners abruptly shut off in the sweltering heat.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/detainees-describe-worms-food-sewage-beds-inside-alligator-123683291
MIAMI -- Worms in the food. Toilets that don't flush, flooding floors with fecal waste. Days without a shower or prescription medicine. Mosquitoes and insects everywhere. Lights on all night. Air conditioners that suddenly shut off in the tropical heat. Detainees forced to use recorded phone lines to speak with their lawyers and loved ones.

Only days after President Donald Trump toured a new immigration detention center in the Florida Everglades that officials have dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz,” these are some of the conditions described by people held inside.


https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/detainee-being-held-at-alligator-alcatraz-describes-conditions-at-everglades-facility/3653144/
Florida still has not released the number of people being detained at what they call "Alligator Alcatraz" – but for the first time, we’re hearing from several men who are being held inside the facility.

Leamsy Izquierdo, also known as Leamsy La Figura, a self-described Cuban urban artist, was arrested for a violent incident and has been at the detention center out in the Everglades since Friday.

"There is no water here to bathe," he told Telemundo 51, adding it's been four days since he showered. He believes there are about 400 people inside the facility. "They give you food only once a day, food that even has worms in it," Izquierdo said. Detention center lights are always on, 24/7, he said, and the mosquitoes are "the size of elephants."
He said they are not allowed to go outside, and the tents are freezing.

Izquierdo’s partner, Katia, says he’s a permanent resident who was arrested last week. He was first taken to Turner Guliford Knight Correctional Center, then to Miramar and finally to the Everglades facility. "I don't think it's humane to have people in those conditions," Katia said.


The conditions are clearly inhumane. I'd say they're barbaric, sadistic and unspeakably evil.

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