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69. Don't hold your breath.

Tue Nov 18, 2025, 09:22 PM

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https://time.com/7334450/epstein-files-released-trump-massie/

After months of insisting that the Epstein files were a “hoax” and his Department of Justice (DOJ) closing its investigation into the case, Trump ordered a new probe last week into several of his political opponents for their links to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

But legal experts and some key figures pushing for the release of the files have questioned the sudden about-turn, suggesting that Trump may be using the new DOJ investigation to block any further releases.

Republican Rep. Thomas Massie, the key driver behind the push to force a vote in the House of Representatives to release the files, suggested the investigation may be a “smokescreen” and a “last-ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.”

“If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can’t be released,” Massie said Sunday.

There's something in the files Trump doesn't want made public and there's no way in hell he decided overnight to allow it to become public. It's just not in his nature. He's got a plan that will likely keep exclusions in the courts for the remainder of his term. 2¢

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Hang on to your hats... [View all] PCIntern Tuesday OP

what are you talking about? Shellback Squid Tuesday #1

Nothing. Nothing at all... PCIntern Tuesday #3

the murder is new to me unless you mean epsteins demise Shellback Squid Tuesday #4

Ok PCIntern Tuesday #7

No it wasn't Cirsium Tuesday #50

OJ got away with a double murder Skittles Tuesday #68

There you go Cirsium Tuesday #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Wednesday #77

yeah, keep telling yourself that Skittles Wednesday #78

Absurd Cirsium Wednesday #86

He butchered two people and got away with it Betty Boom Wednesday #79

Of course not Cirsium Wednesday #87

Oh, no...I'm thinking a number of these young ladies might have been killed over the years if they tried to get away. PatrickforB Tuesday #29

Epstein's own brother has maintained all along that Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide. MuirHero Tuesday #41

It's pretty common for family members to struggle to accept suicide EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #45

If the various indications of Russian Intel involvement are remotely accurate quakerboy Tuesday #48

They will be heavily redacted so nothing comes out. oldmanlynn Tuesday #60

I share your concern that this will be a fizzer, Aussie105 Wednesday #74

K&R spanone Tuesday #2

Sounds like 'must-seeTV' EYESORE 9001 Tuesday #5

Problem is, many of them evolves Tuesday #24

Or at least their owners are. quakerboy Tuesday #49

All of that plus the cover up will exceed that of Watergate. livetohike Tuesday #6

After this popsdenver Tuesday #35

Compared to this, Watergate is nothing but a cold fart. nt miyazaki Tuesday #43

My blood pressure can't handle COL Mustard Tuesday #47

I agree that would be the case but I don't think doc03 Tuesday #8

I'm saddened to think that you're probably correct. Gimpyknee Tuesday #40

The Simpson estate finally settled with Mr. Goldman for over $50 million dollars Ponietz Tuesday #9

And in 30 years Generation Betas will say, "Trump who?" Wednesdays Tuesday #27

I look forward to that day. calimary Wednesday #72

One important difference. O.J. didn't have command of the armed forces or nukes. Fil1957 Tuesday #10

RE: OJ, you didn't mention the awesome car chase down the freeway. Intractable Tuesday #11

A great moment in sports history PCIntern Tuesday #14

June 17th....OJ chase was my birthday present... MiHale Tuesday #32

I'd be happy to watch him evolves Tuesday #25

I'd like to see HighFired49 Tuesday #64

Sounds like... jmbar2 Tuesday #12

I wish I shared your confidence, BlueKota Tuesday #13

That would be the equivalent of Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox PCIntern Tuesday #15

We hope. Wednesdays Tuesday #28

Yeah, I'm worried that they're adulterating the evidence as fast as they can GopherGal Tuesday #18

There is a huge risk to the criminal cabal if they alter the files. MuirHero Tuesday #44

This gives me a bit more reassurance. BlueKota Tuesday #63

Makes me wonder if somebody along the way made himself/herself a copy. calimary Wednesday #73

You can bet Musk did. tavernier Wednesday #81

Almost everybody hates Pedophiles and some of the stuff KS Toronado Tuesday #26

This is a big deal, but not EVERYONE we can think of is in the Epstein files ToxMarz Tuesday #16

I'll see you and raise you one (scandal). TheRickles Tuesday #17

And Putin's involvement. PCIntern Tuesday #19

Yep. I wonder what the Vegas odds are on this all coming out. TheRickles Tuesday #20

Maybe this is what has shuttered Vegas? Captain Zero Wednesday #76

Eventually is too long to wait, the country needs it all to come out now. Bev54 Tuesday #21

Too long? See JFK files. johnnyfins Tuesday #34

Yup, a Tsunami of crime, corruption, graft, exploitation and just plain ugliness is about to erupt. Joinfortmill Tuesday #22

Yep, and it'll be overwhelming MSM on how to report on it KS Toronado Tuesday #30

can you imagine dershowicz in the civil war rampartd Tuesday #23

Umm... isn't he supposed to shoot himself on live television since Mandami won the election? OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #71

MTG went STRAIGHT AT cilla4progress Tuesday #31

and more than that azureblue Tuesday #33

I agree with what you've said slightlv Tuesday #58

You still assume this vote in the House will ultimately result in the release of the Epstein files YodaMom2 Tuesday #36

THIS InstantGratification Tuesday #57

Unfortunately, I think Blondie will be Trump's savior and sit on the files because of an "ongoing investigation." Vinca Tuesday #37

I'm longing for the day Blondie Bondi experiences her John Mitchell comeuppance. Totally Tunsie Tuesday #42

There should be a lawsuit countering that. returnee Tuesday #55

More likely to affirm the untouchability of the rich and powerful Bobstandard Tuesday #38

Just a distraction to kee our eyes away from serious things IbogaProject Tuesday #39

And selling fighter jets to Saudi Arabia. nt. AnotherDreamWeaver Tuesday #65

I'll be concerned about my hat when (if) we actually see documents Jbraybarten Tuesday #46

Good or bad, it will NOT be indifferent, I think this will break the back of the GOP. A conservative third party ... marble falls Tuesday #51

I wish the GOP would go the way slightlv Tuesday #61

My great, great, great grandfather was the last Whig/Know Nothing Governor of Kentucky these guys mostly became ... marble falls Tuesday #62

I still think nothing will come of this CanonRay Tuesday #52

K/R NT ProudProgressiveNow Tuesday #53

Mr. trump will still be the same degenerate half-wit tomorrow as he is today Torchlight Tuesday #54

It is a decades long obscenity and corrupt, knee jerk protection of the powerful over multiple administrations. pat_k Tuesday #56

There us indeed a 'deep state' with a LOT to keep hidden. FraDon Tuesday #59

No offense intended but I can't help but hear Stefan's voice as i read the OP (LMAO) Montauk6 Tuesday #66

I can especially hear "exquisite looking people" flamingdem Wednesday #75

We're going to get fake files, and, Trump will proclaim He's acquitted. The media drops the story after that. The end. Oneironaut Tuesday #67

Don't hold your breath. Septua Tuesday #69

I think this will be a big fat nothing just like everything else Betty Boom Wednesday #80

Speaker of the House is freaking out - "it needed amendments " womanofthehills Wednesday #84

Uhh... no. Halicarnassus Wednesday #82

Ok. Opinions vary. PCIntern Wednesday #83

Unfortunately... av8rdave Wednesday #85

Perfect Investigatory Storm Kid Berwyn Wednesday #88