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31. That's exactly my point
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 03:53 PM
13 hrs ago

Democrats don't agree with the church on this fundamental issue. So why be part of it? They aren't going to change. The last 2 Popes made no attempt to do so.

Meanwhile look at who the church attracts as fresh converts - Newt Gingrich, JD Vance, Candace Owens. If they find it so appealing, why should we?

As far as being "understanding men", I don't think so. Let's look at another reproductive choice issue and see - surrogacy.

https://apnews.com/article/pope-surrogacy-vatican-russia-israel-ukraine-56acaa8500336db81ee18913a77ddc0f

Pope Francis called Monday for a universal ban on what he called the “despicable” practice of surrogate motherhood, as he included the “commercialization” of pregnancy in an annual speech listing threats to global peace and human dignity


This is deeply personal to me because we just had a son born through surrogacy. Why did we do this? Because when our first son was born, my wife had eclampsia and could have died and our son did die. I watched as they put the bumpers on the bed in case my wife started having seizures. I had to watch my son die in front of me. But because of what is a miracle of modern science, we were able to have another son with the help of a surrogate. She made a choice to help us, and I believe women should have the freedom to make whatever reproductive choices they want. Pope Francis didn't believe that. He wasn't understanding of the situation. Instead he thinks we're despicable. I say he can fuck off.

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I suspected something so I looked the mother up SamuelTheThird Yesterday #1
"the hospital is investigating the incident." Prof. Toru Tanaka Yesterday #2
A Great Big YEAH, YEAH,YEAH! jaymac 23 hrs ago #6
I see big money on the horizon Puppyjive Yesterday #3
Victims have lawyers, this hospital will pay BlueWaveNeverEnd 23 hrs ago #4
This makes zero sense..l Bread and Circuses 23 hrs ago #5
Are you saying the fake pro-lifers are the hospitals themselves? or the religion that established them? Because the ancianita 23 hrs ago #7
Anti-Catholic bigotry still exists in this country SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #8
The problem is when it comes to healthcare The Revolution 19 hrs ago #14
Thanks for proving my point! SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #15
It's not bigotry to be opposed to an organization The Revolution 19 hrs ago #16
Thanks again SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #17
How childish The Revolution 19 hrs ago #19
Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #20
I'm a Catholic BeerBarrelPolka 18 hrs ago #21
Yes there are good Catholics SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #22
Of course it's bigotry BeerBarrelPolka 18 hrs ago #23
Sorry to hear about your illness SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #24
Thank you BeerBarrelPolka 18 hrs ago #25
I take issue with your last statement Jilly_in_VA 17 hrs ago #26
The Evangelicals literally loathe the Catholics BeerBarrelPolka 17 hrs ago #28
Which has nothing to do with your statement. Jilly_in_VA 17 hrs ago #29
What are you talking about? BeerBarrelPolka 17 hrs ago #30
That's exactly my point The Revolution 13 hrs ago #31
1. According to recent data, about 15.8% of all short-term acute care hospitals are Catholic-owned or affiliated. ancianita 9 hrs ago #33
The article I provided answes a lot of this The Revolution 5 hrs ago #39
I make a distinction between individuals who are Catholic, Crunchy Frog 8 hrs ago #36
Glad you do SocialDemocrat61 2 hrs ago #41
i'm referring to anti birth control, anti abortion religious hospitals. Catholic or otherwise. FAKE PRO LIFERS BlueWaveNeverEnd 21 hrs ago #10
You posted an article without using it to support the header claim. Is there anything in the article that ancianita 9 hrs ago #34
How does a single individual nurse Crunchy Frog 8 hrs ago #35
I know nothing about this hospital and whether or not it has a full obstetrics unit, but increasingly... hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #9
they shd b transferred to said nearby hospital. mopinko 20 hrs ago #12
Most hospitals TRY to do so, but if it is imminently emergent or the patient/parents refuse, they cannot force hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #13
Reddit comment: As a POC I never in my life felt more uncomfortable than when I visited Indiana. Never again . Swede 21 hrs ago #11
2000+ years ago, a religion could be spun from this incident. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 19 hrs ago #18
WWJD? Jilly_in_VA 17 hrs ago #27
Upthread comment: Catholic hospitals are the only option in many areas. GJGCA 13 hrs ago #32
LAWSUIT Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #37
Sue the hospital. No woman should have to beg. She could have died !!!!! By Trueblue1968 7 hrs ago #38
They just made that baby RICH. Maru Kitteh 5 hrs ago #40
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