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In reply to the discussion: Ukraine is rejecting Trump's plan right now at the UN Security Council. [View all]blue-wave
(4,792 posts)20. As well they should
The agreement was drafted without any Ukrainian input or consultation. Ukraine should respond with a demand that Russia give up their borderlands with Ukraine (much of this land was once Ukrainian anyway) as a buffer zone to protect Ukraine from more Russian invasion and genocide. We can start with the Kuban region, which was once Ukrainian land:
In Kuban many Ukrainians were settled in areas which were inhabited by Russians when in 1792 the Empress Catherine II gave the Black Sea Cossack Host the rights to these lands. Her decree of June 30 and July 1, 1792 handed these lands over to the Black Sea Cossacks "for eternity".[citation needed] The territory involved included the Phanagorian peninsula and the lands on the right bank of the Kuban River.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainians_in_Kuban
Attention Mr. Putin! If I read the above excerpt correctly, it does say "for eternity."
Russia is nothing but a terrorist state and has never had any honor.
Slava Ukraini!! Heroyam Slava!! Slava NaViki!!
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Ukraine is rejecting Trump's plan right now at the UN Security Council. [View all]
spanone
Nov 21
OP
This doesn't surprise me. Trump claimed he could end the Russian invasion of Ukraine on day one. Putin uses Trump
OLDMDDEM
Nov 21
#1
Cede 1/3 of their territory, huge reduce their military, ban NATO. Russia gets to join the world economy.
Swede
Nov 21
#3
The TrumPutin Plan is a death proposal. To TrumPutin, the World is their Fifth Avenue.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Nov 21
#5
Trump's "plan" is unilateral disarmament and a territory giveaway. Shades of Neville Chamberlain.
Martin68
Nov 21
#15
There's no "plan" - there's never any fucking "plan" or "deal". Just Assmouth's unending venality.
617Blue
Nov 21
#23
I sure hope this doesn't hurt Trumps chances for winning Peace Prize next year.
Gimpyknee
Nov 21
#30
They knew they couldn't accept a peace deal that would destroy them as a nation.
Borogove
Nov 22
#40