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NNadir

(36,980 posts)
12. I'm an atheist but...
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:02 AM
20 hrs ago

...for familial reasons, that I described here when my oldest son was a toddler, I had him baptized in an Episcopalian (Christianity Light) church which involved attending services for a short time.

One of the sermons by a woman priest there has always stuck in my mind, in which she said that the "rod" in that famous quote should never have been interpreted as beat the hell out of a kid, but that actually the "rod" in sheep herding is a stick held out to gently guide the sheep in the desired direction.

This actually make sense. The alternate meaning, "bit the kid over the head with a stick" represents in my mind a case of eisegesis, thus giving me the second occasion to use the word in a sentence.

We never hit our kids - although my fundamentalist sister-in-law and mother-in-law did hit theirs and thought we should hit ours - and we're very proud of the fine young men they both turned out to be. My two nieces are doing OK, but the oldest has moved out of state, and doesn't plan on coming back. This reminds me of my wife, who when we married, wanted us to move as far away from her family as we could. (Later we made peace with them.)

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kids KNOW!!! Years ago there was a young girl ( maybe 11) in town who went to the police station samnsara 21 hrs ago #1
Yup, my oldest granddaughter was "the nicest, kindest" girl at 11... haele 15 hrs ago #43
What is with these "christian" parents? mwmisses4289 21 hrs ago #2
so much of their self worth is tied up in their kids. mopinko 21 hrs ago #5
rules azureblue 20 hrs ago #8
It makes me wonder does she do this to her students? mwmisses4289 20 hrs ago #9
spare the rod, spoil the child Brainstormy 20 hrs ago #10
I'm an atheist but... NNadir 20 hrs ago #12
James Dobson and his fellow travelers would disagree with the Episcopalian Priest. paleotn 19 hrs ago #22
That is a really interesting interpretation, and it does makes sense... electric_blue68 16 hrs ago #40
there's ALWAYS another explanation Brainstormy 14 hrs ago #45
It's in the bible. Old Testament christians are a violent bunch. sop 20 hrs ago #14
Ok, I haven't read a Bible in so long, I've forgotten a lot it (thankfully). mwmisses4289 20 hrs ago #20
It is. You know, the 'spare the rod spoil the child' bullshit. Joinfortmill 20 hrs ago #15
It is in fundigelical circles. They're all about it. paleotn 20 hrs ago #16
I remember those cases now. I believe mwmisses4289 19 hrs ago #25
When you govern your life by a 2000 year old book, what would you expect? walkingman 19 hrs ago #32
Nailed It ProfessorGAC 15 hrs ago #44
It's the whole philosophy of... COL Mustard 20 hrs ago #17
A lot of conservative Christian parents are all in on corporal punishment, and back it up with passages from the bible. Martin68 19 hrs ago #33
It's an EXCUSE MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #41
Well, disciple and discipline have the same root meaning. cloudbase 21 hrs ago #3
Bully WmChris 21 hrs ago #4
Cell phones and CCTV are great. multigraincracker 21 hrs ago #6
agreed BlueWaveNeverEnd 20 hrs ago #7
Sickening.. mountain grammy 20 hrs ago #11
My outrage has no bounds. None. Throw her in jail. NOW. Joinfortmill 20 hrs ago #13
The shool was using Old Crank 20 hrs ago #18
Some people shouldn't breed Aviation Pro 20 hrs ago #19
This woman needs some serious jail time. flashman13 19 hrs ago #21
Dead eyes. niyad 19 hrs ago #23
I am of a generation where corporal punishment was very common. In fact it was the norm. Although hitting a child 20 Fil1957 19 hrs ago #24
Yeah, our butts got it only once with either open palm or wooden paddle. mwmisses4289 19 hrs ago #26
That's horrible.🙁 Dave Bowman 19 hrs ago #27
A "Christian" school UpInArms 19 hrs ago #28
"it transpired" bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #29
Mommy.nt moniss 19 hrs ago #30
Where does it say she was "Teacher of the Year"? Bluetus 19 hrs ago #31
Former Alabama Teacher of the Year Arrested Over Beating Child in Viral Video BlueWaveNeverEnd 18 hrs ago #35
Thank you. I think we should be clear Bluetus 18 hrs ago #39
It was clear MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #42
Big brother deserves praise Iris 19 hrs ago #34
Lil bro too. I think lil bro filmed it, sent video to older bro BlueWaveNeverEnd 18 hrs ago #37
Those are strong bonds. Iris 18 hrs ago #38
Read something once that helped me have a bit more sympathy for some of these lunatic fundamentalists EverHopeful 18 hrs ago #36
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