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MADem

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75. There's money to be made. The UK model is a "success" for them so they see opportunities

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:12 PM

Mar 2013

to translate that success here.

You can't go anywhere in London without being on a screen, somewhere. This is true of most cities of any import in UK.

It's getting to be the same in New York city, as well. Other cities, too.

It is a different world. We won't go backwards on this--it's just too much of a money-saver as well as being a money-maker. I can understand the reluctance to feel comfortable with this constant surveillance, but as I have said elsewhere, the horse has left the barn. This will not be rolled back. Don't want to be recognized? Large hats, big brims, oversized coats and Jackie Onassis-sized dark glasses and scarves will be the must-wear accessories for both sexes.

During WW2, borders still meant something. We were fairly secure in our persons, despite efforts by the Japanese and Germans to cause trouble on the west and east coasts, respectively.

It wasn't easy to go from USA to any other country, save to our allies Canada or Mexico. You'd have to stop and refuel if you took a plane, and if you took a boat, you risked getting sunk. I've gone to Europe for a weekend; that kind of mobility wasn't possible seventy years ago.

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ABC News: Box of "Liberal Causes" stolen from DNC warehouse. Libertarians suspected. [View all] Poll_Blind Mar 2013 OP

I'd rather ensure a living wage and hand out blankets to old people... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #1

But most of all, you prefer creating false choices cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #4

Wow, that's some careful tiptoeing around "hundreds of murdered civilians abroad." DirkGently Mar 2013 #19

U.S. citizens? zbdent Mar 2013 #23

Well... R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #67

but the above said ... zbdent Mar 2013 #68

I was replyig to your comment. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #69

Yes, "hundreds of civilians." You're making the "dead foreigners don't count" argument? DirkGently Mar 2013 #72

I would venture to say that dead terrorists, especially foreign terrorists, don't count ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2013 #83

So you are saying, if we kill them, they must be terrorists or terrorist sympathizers? RC Mar 2013 #88

No. As you know, "the left" is not outraged that Obama is using drones "at all." DirkGently Mar 2013 #71

Twice, they have purposely killed American citizens. RC Mar 2013 #89

Absolutely correct. (nt) DirkGently Mar 2013 #95

I imagine many people are unable to to both. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #41

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS SECRET! grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #94

LOL. Perhaps we're best off starting fresh anyway. EOTE Mar 2013 #2

Thanks, it is. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #5

VERY well done! That's onion worthy right there. n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #32

Good satire. JohnnyRingo Mar 2013 #35

Too funny Autumn Mar 2013 #3

They don't know that ERA is Equal Rights Amendment? Too funny in a sad way. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #22

"In a sad kind of way.", indeed! If I wasn't laughing, I'd be crying. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #43

That made me laugh Rabid_Rabbit Mar 2013 #6

Can we create a Pab Sungenis Mar 2013 #7

Have they checked the shredder? First place I would look. :-) djean111 Mar 2013 #8

Shredder? The paper should have turned brown and powderized like pecan leaves ny now. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #17

Standing-O! Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #9

Libertarians disagree with liberals on 99% of the issues. They favor letting poor people starve and geek tragedy Mar 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #37

+1 freshwest Mar 2013 #59

I think it's extremely regrettable that we've let people (out of ignorance) set out Romulox Mar 2013 #11

Because on economic issues they ARE opposites. On the environment they ARE opposites. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #14

Are you confused? pediatricmedic Mar 2013 #28

Under that standard, government regulation of business is considered 'authoritarian' geek tragedy Mar 2013 #31

"What do you think the libertarians mean when they yell 'liberty?' " Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #44

And the right to pollute the environment. And the right to discriminate against minorities they geek tragedy Mar 2013 #45

That's American Libertarians which are really Republicans who believe Bush was a Liberal. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #46

Well, this is a board dedicated to American politics. Just like liberalism means geek tragedy Mar 2013 #47

I'm old enough to remember when "Conservative" meant never wanting to try something new even once. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #49

I can remember when conservatism and conservation were not enemies. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #50

I'm old enough to remember when the NRA fought against acid rain. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #51

About the same time Republicans stood up to the NRA on occasion. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #52

Back before the Republicans decided to claim "Liberal" was a dirty word. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #54

I'm not that old. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #55

Remember Carter? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #58

I remember Carter vs Reagan. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #62

You don't remember Carter vs Ford? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #64

Many people, Bill Maher included, have described Libertarians as Republicans who want to get high. MADem Mar 2013 #73

It wasn't that long ago when Republicans were the ones against traffic cams.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #74

There's money to be made. The UK model is a "success" for them so they see opportunities MADem Mar 2013 #75

I believe it's a measure of our cowardice.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #77

Well, the new paradigm is part and parcel of all that bullshit terra-terra-terra that followed MADem Mar 2013 #81

We could only WISH Interpol had an enforcement arm... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #82

Libertarians start and finish with Anarchy Lordquinton Mar 2013 #38

Libertarians in the US abelenkpe Mar 2013 #42

That's not what "civil libertarian" means. I mean, it's *SPECIFICALLY* not what it means. Romulox Mar 2013 #56

Libertarian and "civil libertarian" are as similar as liberals and neo-liberals. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #57

I don't think it was stolen. I think the Democratic Party pissed and shitted on it so many times forestpath Mar 2013 #12

Libertarians don't care about liberal causes. sadbear Mar 2013 #13

Actually it goes a good bit deeper than that 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #21

Very nice work. n/t hughee99 Mar 2013 #15

"...dust them off" LOL! Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #16

Great. Octafish Mar 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Mar 2013 #20

Bravo! OnyxCollie Mar 2013 #24

This would be a great Daily Show bit. n/t NOVA_Dem Mar 2013 #25

Go get a job with The Onion. :) mwooldri Mar 2013 #26

Well done and absolutely true. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #27

Funny! At least we believe in something. alfredo Mar 2013 #29

Is this a joke? nineteen50 Mar 2013 #30

Didn't you hear? Rand "Privatize Medicare" Paul is more of a liberal than Obama is. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #33

That's the ticket. freshwest Mar 2013 #80

Ouch. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #34

Very funny, Poll Blind. bluedigger Mar 2013 #36

LOL, I hear ya! From my perspective, American politics is like a fun house mirror that... Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #48

So Nixonion Of Them DallasNE Mar 2013 #39

Excellent satire! FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #40

Excellent post! Great bit of satire. Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #53

Mirthful K&R warrprayer Mar 2013 #60

Too funny pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #61

This is from the Onion, right? If true, it is supremely funny. McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #63

It's not from The Onion, it's from The Poll_Blind. ;^) nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #65

K&R! Be funnier if it weren't so damn sad. nt raouldukelives Mar 2013 #66

Go read page 18 of the Violence Against Women act and get back to me Politicub Mar 2013 #70

Wonderfully witty! procon Mar 2013 #76

Bra fucking vo, anyone remember when were the ones who wanted to protect people's rights? Kurska Mar 2013 #78

Exceptionally poor Inventory Management procedures. MicaelS Mar 2013 #79

The day one thinks that libertarians have suddenly embraced Libral causes, is the day you need Javaman Mar 2013 #84

Good satire, PB. =) AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #85

oh come on. This is an Onion piece, right? BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #86

Hilarious satire -- but I object that there is no indication that it is satire. n/t philly_bob Mar 2013 #87

This is brilliant Capt. Obvious Mar 2013 #90

Superb harun Mar 2013 #91

They'll probably use the space for some 3rd Way Initiatives and drones Doctor_J Mar 2013 #92

They were probably stashed next to the Ark Of The Covenant. Initech Mar 2013 #93