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MuseRider

(34,308 posts)
36. They will turn you down here.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:28 AM
Sep 2013

I have never worked for the state party or ever considered it but I have friends that do and have and I have friends that are real, very active activists who the party will not, or I should say until now have not accepted even their time. I have had friends booted out because they don't toe the line. We have candidates the party will not help. None of these people are right of center. Most are left, not all that left and still the party seeks to rid themselves of them even when that means a Republican will fill a seat. Hopefully we are getting past that but it is a good part of the reason Kansas looks like it does now.

That being said, you can work for the candidates that the party leaves dangling in the wind and occasionally you can even get them elected if you work hard enough. You can work issues and you don't need the party to even give a shit about it. You CAN force the party to look at you and accept that you have made a large enough group to effect their lives.

I am a lefty lefty in Kansas. Nobody in this state party would ever accept me and that is fine, I actually prefer working outside the lines here. I have little respect for the way this party has acted here for the most part but have dear friends who are doing the work inside. I have little respect for the way the DNC has left even our very right of center party dangling in the breeze, left our state to become what it is now. It is not pretty yet we do not rate help from the Party.

I attended a caucus as a delegate. I will not tell you what happened there. I lost any interest in party politics that day.

Sometimes you can't change the party from within until you make something large enough they can't ignore it then you shine it in their eyes until they give up and let you in. Then the real fighting to stay relevant begins.

I am less active now than I was. I am tired. It is a very hard job to work in this state as a democrat but as a liberal it has been almost impossible. Still, I do things and I know things from both sides of the spectrum of the Democratic party here. Not lots, just enough to know it is still hard to change a party that does not accept change as a possibility or even as a requirement in spite of losing over and over and being decimated statewide.

Agreed. This place can get ridiculous at times, but... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #1
"Last year was partly an Obama backlash" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #6
Aaargh! You're right. I just woke up and.. TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #8
Damn I know the feeling! BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #17
I see it differently. 99Forever Sep 2013 #2
Well, if you think they aren't trying, I invite you to come try instead Recursion Sep 2013 #3
Excuse me? 99Forever Sep 2013 #4
OK then Recursion Sep 2013 #5
Now you get it! ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #16
Was there a post I missed somewhere that MM and the OP here saw listing sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #40
Fair enough … 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #55
Piece of advice, don't use anyone who spent the Bush years, when we were all sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #56
??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #59
Funny how quickly they ... 99Forever Sep 2013 #22
Were you just gloating to me, whom you claim to have vanquished? Recursion Sep 2013 #25
I was pointing out the glaringly obvious. 99Forever Sep 2013 #27
+1 bahrbearian Sep 2013 #39
Without specifics, that sounds like just whining about... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #38
It isn't just one issue or one candidate. 99Forever Sep 2013 #47
I asked what happened to you that got you so pissed... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #53
I think poster is saying don't look for leaders, be a leader. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #46
Really? 99Forever Sep 2013 #48
So you think it's "TPTB", and not "reality sets in when you have to actually accomplish things"? Recursion Sep 2013 #58
We do indeed disagree. 99Forever Sep 2013 #63
+1000. A whole hearted effort looks a lot different than play acting to give yourself cover GoneFishin Sep 2013 #14
+1 Marr Sep 2013 #28
If you think participating in the political discussion ISN'T activism Demeter Sep 2013 #7
I do see your point Recursion Sep 2013 #9
Persuading 'Moderate Incrimenalists' to get over their fears and support equality was and is Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #23
Me? No. I'm a "knock and drag" kind of guy Recursion Sep 2013 #24
It is better with your attitude. RiffRandell Sep 2013 #43
Discussion here, however, comes close to "preaching to the choir"... Silent3 Sep 2013 #10
I agree as well. I see DU members who I disagree with and I try to engage in a fruitful discussion. Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #12
I think posting here barely makes it HappyMe Sep 2013 #13
Not everyone inhabits the BOG, or even visits it Demeter Sep 2013 #18
I'm not a subscriber to the BOG HappyMe Sep 2013 #19
6 lines ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #11
I differ a little. We both happen to want Republicans defeated. mmonk Sep 2013 #15
Interesting post considering you live outside US now. Lars39 Sep 2013 #20
I'm here on orders from the US Government Recursion Sep 2013 #21
I'll always have a problem with centrists, Lars39 Sep 2013 #26
Didn't you get the memo? Americans that live in other countries need not respond to ANYTHING Number23 Sep 2013 #54
I love it when right leaning Democrats announce that any energies spent attempting to influencee Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #29
"...right leaning Democrats..." is an oxymoron. Except for the label, there is no such thing. RC Sep 2013 #37
I suspect a number of posters here are online specifically because they're not good talkers Fumesucker Sep 2013 #30
Oh Fumesucker, why do you have to drag the party down? Recursion Sep 2013 #31
I bet the lurker/poster ratio on DU is pretty damn high Fumesucker Sep 2013 #34
Spreading the idea Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman makes me think we're not on the same team. Octafish Sep 2013 #32
Are you seriously docking me for quoting Werner Herzog? Recursion Sep 2013 #33
For some reason you think there's nothing NAZI about the direction the country is taking. Octafish Sep 2013 #35
Maybe it would be a conflict of interest if he said yes. Rex Sep 2013 #45
Huh? Recursion Sep 2013 #57
They will turn you down here. MuseRider Sep 2013 #36
+1 Fumesucker Sep 2013 #44
We must fight for our Party. The 1% has bought a lot of influence. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #49
Home of the Koch brothers MuseRider Sep 2013 #50
The fence mending won't work this time. mick063 Sep 2013 #41
Nailed it Hydra Sep 2013 #42
The Kicker for me is this... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #51
I see DU as a form of activism steve2470 Sep 2013 #52
The old guard is stuck in the past. mick063 Sep 2013 #60
great post, thank you nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #61
Can I ask what dragging is? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #62
Knock on the door and drag them to the voting location Recursion Sep 2013 #64
"I voted for ya, Mr Lincoln, but now I is real unhappy cuz ya ain't took Richmond yet: struggle4progress Sep 2013 #65
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