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TreasonousBastard

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38. Without specifics, that sounds like just whining about...

Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:51 AM

Sep 2013

how you didn't get your way.

OK, you worked for a candidate. You walked, you talked, you phoned, you wrote checks...

Then what did said candidate do or not do to piss you off? Back down on a promise? Vote the "wrong" way?

Was there some overriding issue that said politician agreed with you on then changed his or her vote?

Here's the thing-- we're never going to agree 100% with anyone in office, and that's made worse by the bullshit officeholders have to go through from constituents with different goals and different campaign contributions and connections.

So, maybe we have a core group absolute positions. The problem there is that maybe nobody goes along with all of them and there's no one else to support.

So, maybe we weight positions and try to support someone who has enough "points" and then the point totals drop after they're in office.

Or, maybe we just insist they do as we say on everything and they can piss off if they don't.

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This third-way centrist ultimately loves counterproductive left wingnuts [View all] Recursion Sep 2013 OP

Agreed. This place can get ridiculous at times, but... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #1

"Last year was partly an Obama backlash" BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #6

Aaargh! You're right. I just woke up and.. TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #8

Damn I know the feeling! BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #17

I see it differently. 99Forever Sep 2013 #2

Well, if you think they aren't trying, I invite you to come try instead Recursion Sep 2013 #3

Excuse me? 99Forever Sep 2013 #4

OK then Recursion Sep 2013 #5

Now you get it! ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #16

Was there a post I missed somewhere that MM and the OP here saw listing sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #40

Fair enough … 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #55

Piece of advice, don't use anyone who spent the Bush years, when we were all sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #56

??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #59

Funny how quickly they ... 99Forever Sep 2013 #22

Were you just gloating to me, whom you claim to have vanquished? Recursion Sep 2013 #25

I was pointing out the glaringly obvious. 99Forever Sep 2013 #27

+1 bahrbearian Sep 2013 #39

Without specifics, that sounds like just whining about... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #38

It isn't just one issue or one candidate. 99Forever Sep 2013 #47

I asked what happened to you that got you so pissed... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #53

I think poster is saying don't look for leaders, be a leader. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #46

Really? 99Forever Sep 2013 #48

So you think it's "TPTB", and not "reality sets in when you have to actually accomplish things"? Recursion Sep 2013 #58

We do indeed disagree. 99Forever Sep 2013 #63

+1000. A whole hearted effort looks a lot different than play acting to give yourself cover GoneFishin Sep 2013 #14

+1 Marr Sep 2013 #28

If you think participating in the political discussion ISN'T activism Demeter Sep 2013 #7

I do see your point Recursion Sep 2013 #9

Persuading 'Moderate Incrimenalists' to get over their fears and support equality was and is Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #23

Me? No. I'm a "knock and drag" kind of guy Recursion Sep 2013 #24

It is better with your attitude. RiffRandell Sep 2013 #43

Discussion here, however, comes close to "preaching to the choir"... Silent3 Sep 2013 #10

I agree as well. I see DU members who I disagree with and I try to engage in a fruitful discussion. Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #12

I think posting here barely makes it HappyMe Sep 2013 #13

Not everyone inhabits the BOG, or even visits it Demeter Sep 2013 #18

I'm not a subscriber to the BOG HappyMe Sep 2013 #19

6 lines ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #11

I differ a little. We both happen to want Republicans defeated. mmonk Sep 2013 #15

Interesting post considering you live outside US now. Lars39 Sep 2013 #20

I'm here on orders from the US Government Recursion Sep 2013 #21

I'll always have a problem with centrists, Lars39 Sep 2013 #26

Didn't you get the memo? Americans that live in other countries need not respond to ANYTHING Number23 Sep 2013 #54

I love it when right leaning Democrats announce that any energies spent attempting to influencee Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #29

"...right leaning Democrats..." is an oxymoron. Except for the label, there is no such thing. RC Sep 2013 #37

I suspect a number of posters here are online specifically because they're not good talkers Fumesucker Sep 2013 #30

Oh Fumesucker, why do you have to drag the party down? Recursion Sep 2013 #31

I bet the lurker/poster ratio on DU is pretty damn high Fumesucker Sep 2013 #34

Spreading the idea Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman makes me think we're not on the same team. Octafish Sep 2013 #32

Are you seriously docking me for quoting Werner Herzog? Recursion Sep 2013 #33

For some reason you think there's nothing NAZI about the direction the country is taking. Octafish Sep 2013 #35

Maybe it would be a conflict of interest if he said yes. Rex Sep 2013 #45

Huh? Recursion Sep 2013 #57

They will turn you down here. MuseRider Sep 2013 #36

+1 Fumesucker Sep 2013 #44

We must fight for our Party. The 1% has bought a lot of influence. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #49

Home of the Koch brothers MuseRider Sep 2013 #50

The fence mending won't work this time. mick063 Sep 2013 #41

Nailed it Hydra Sep 2013 #42

The Kicker for me is this... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #51

I see DU as a form of activism steve2470 Sep 2013 #52

The old guard is stuck in the past. mick063 Sep 2013 #60

great post, thank you nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #61

Can I ask what dragging is? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #62

Knock on the door and drag them to the voting location Recursion Sep 2013 #64

"I voted for ya, Mr Lincoln, but now I is real unhappy cuz ya ain't took Richmond yet: struggle4progress Sep 2013 #65