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In reply to the discussion: I am handicapped -- this morning Spires Restaurant in Torrance , CA, discriminated against me. [View all]Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)135. While that sounds like a reasonable explanation, it's not in terms of ADA public accommodation.
Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2013, 08:26 PM - Edit history (1)
Check here, for one:
http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
Other ADA FAQs provide even more info on the subject.
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I am handicapped -- this morning Spires Restaurant in Torrance , CA, discriminated against me. [View all]
Hepburn
Oct 2013
OP
I would pass this incident by the ACLU, just to see what they say ... it might
RKP5637
Oct 2013
#107
Which Spires? Hawthorne or Sepulveda? I'm guessing Hawthorne. Yelp links here:
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#114
New Policy? More like a stupid over-reaction to Beverly Hills Bimbos and their purse dogs.
haele
Oct 2013
#141
But, would it be discriminating against someone with severe allergies to seat them
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#23
The person with expressed dog allergies wouldn't be forced to sit near the dog.
pnwmom
Oct 2013
#176
Can I have separate seating to guard against nasty little children with infectious germs, and
jtuck004
Oct 2013
#106
If you'd stop bringing your dog to the restaurant, you'd stop attracting children
OmahaBlueDog
Oct 2013
#113
And whlie we are at it, put that rolling fire hazard in a wheel chair in the back of the bus,
jtuck004
Oct 2013
#199
While that sounds like a reasonable explanation, it's not in terms of ADA public accommodation.
Gormy Cuss
Oct 2013
#135
Your link is very clear about isolating the handicapped with service animals
fasttense
Oct 2013
#213
Most of the time, I never notice the dog but when I do and forget and start to pet I
efhmc
Oct 2013
#95
Any manager who uses "offended" and "segregated" should be fired on the spot...
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#11
If someone has an allergy...then of course reasonable accommodations should be made.
Hepburn
Oct 2013
#102
Because preemptively segregating someone based on their disability is discriminatory
suffragette
Oct 2013
#109
They shouldn't. It is not legal for either to have preference. The law says to accommodate both.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#178
An allergy to something you can generally avoid and might yet occasionally
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#63
Asthma and severe allergies are considered a disability under the ADA, kes.
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#79
People with asthma simply have to accept that allergens exist in the world,
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#88
I have and when this problem arose in the past with the same Spires, I went to the home office and..
Hepburn
Oct 2013
#110
Maybe they should have a separate area. Or put up warning signs like many places do about
efhmc
Oct 2013
#99
Are people severely allergic to wheelchairs? To the point where they end up hospitalized?
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#36
The policy would violate the ADA if you were not allowed to eat in the restaurant
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#45
Hint word "BOTH"...not just the one with the service animal is to be segregated.
Hepburn
Oct 2013
#59
That's a reference to living or work arrangements where both parties have a chronic issue.
Gormy Cuss
Oct 2013
#142
So the right to have a service dog trumps the right of someone not to have an asthma attack?
OmahaBlueDog
Oct 2013
#74
They can ask if anyone with a service dog has sat at that table since it was cleaned.
kcr
Oct 2013
#184
They segregate peanut allergy sufferers in my kid's school, and have nut free zones.
OmahaBlueDog
Oct 2013
#82
A school is not a restaurant, in case you were having trouble with that concept.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#91
So just those that are severely allergic to dogs should be segregated. Gotcha.
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#47
He doesn't have to move. He does have to notify restaurant staff of his need for accommodation
Gormy Cuss
Oct 2013
#145
A lot fo people are really afraid of dogs. A lot of people find them dirty. A lot of people love
robinlynne
Oct 2013
#50
Wanting to have your dog in the restaurant with you does not mean you are entitled to that either.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2013
#262
If someone needs extra time to complete a college exam, they will likely find themselves
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#73
What they did was wrong. Unless they KNEW that they already had seated a victim of alergies....
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#118
I live right here in Torrance. I think the asst. mngr. broke the law. That was very
nirvana555
Oct 2013
#123
If they are seated and eating and someone asks, I have NO problem of going to another area.
Hepburn
Oct 2013
#167
According to ADA, "Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying access or refusing
Emit
Oct 2013
#112
Thank you so much for your very thoughtful response. It makes a lot of sense to me.
cbayer
Oct 2013
#162
It sounds like an area of a restaurant where I have ended up being seated many times,
Jenoch
Oct 2013
#169
Wow, you've got a lot of publicizing to do! However, people who are offended by dogs in restaurantsa
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2013
#263
This needs posted at Facebook. They would lose all their business except the offended asses.
appleannie1
Oct 2013
#156
Posted to my wall. There is a restaurant in PGH that does not allow children
appleannie1
Oct 2013
#165
Sadly, this thread seems to have descended into literal "pit bull at olive garden" territory
Scootaloo
Oct 2013
#183
Well, as someone who dislikes dogs, I would not go to a restaurant with dogs in them
quinnox
Oct 2013
#196
Amen. We have a friend who is crazy about dogs and she gets offended whenever i move away from her
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2013
#251
Our first dog, when I was 3 or 4 was named Neutron by my dad. Supposedly I liked that dog.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2013
#265
That's not discrimination against you. It's common courtesy for the remaining patrons. n/t
Lil Missy
Oct 2013
#202