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PeaceNikki

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10. Well, in context, when people lavishly praise the pope and/or the RCC, others will stand up and

Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:00 PM

Jan 2014

point out the systematic and repeated harm they cause.

It's not 'singling out' Catholicism or Catholics. It's being discussed in context of another heaping kudos for something seemingly meaningless to those of us who feel harmed by the people or organization being discussed.

I get that the vast majority are not evil or abusive. But we're not discussing the vast majority. This OP and your replies seem to act as though we should all give the pope or RCC 'credit' for 'doing something'. There has been a lot of horrible shit in these abuse cases. Are you familiar with the St John's School for the Deaf cases? It and many other cases were pure evil done in the name of the church. Covered up and allowed to continue by the church. And the church is still actively fighting the victims.

So, yeah... defrocking. woo fucking hoo.

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Pope defrocked 400 priests in 2 years [View all] steve2470 Jan 2014 OP

But it doesn't count because according to the Cleita Jan 2014 #1

You understand the pope who defrocked those 400 was Ratz, right? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #2

Yes thank you. I can read. Cleita Jan 2014 #3

Ah, well maybe you should have read how people want PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #4

Actually there is a whole section on a catholic website that has Cleita Jan 2014 #5

The Vatican does not have a great history of handling it well in any regard. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #6

The Catholic Church is not unique in dishing out abuses. Cleita Jan 2014 #7

However, it is unique in the abuses it dishes out justiceischeap Jan 2014 #8

I suppose the string of teenaged church secretaries than seem Cleita Jan 2014 #9

Wait... so... you think the Catholic abusers should not be held accountable because... Jesus Camp? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #12

Jesus camp is weird? Cleita Jan 2014 #14

Well, in context, when people lavishly praise the pope and/or the RCC, others will stand up and PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #10

Defrocking is actually the most serious thing they can do in the Cleita Jan 2014 #11

Did you notice the part in OP about how it could have been due to MEDIA coverage? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #13

And the Vatican was wrong. But now that the new pope is trying to change those Cleita Jan 2014 #15

I think they deserve all the shit that gets heaped on them until one of them justiceischeap Jan 2014 #16

I can agree with that and I hope these steps they are taking will Cleita Jan 2014 #20

Who suggested a firing squad? I sure haven't. They don't deserve execution. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #18

You do know what a metaphor is I hope. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #19

I love how you keep avoiding points just to get a cute lil 'dig' in on me. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #21

And various Diocese declaring Chapter 11 Bankruptcy warrant46 Jan 2014 #35

+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #30

Thank you. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #31

They could hand over what they have to the police Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #17

What makes you say they won't. Cleita Jan 2014 #22

UN slams Vatican for 'efforts to cover up' pedophile priests in sex abuse scandal Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #23

There's a whole website out there of priests accused and Cleita Jan 2014 #24

You miss the point... They should be handing it over when they have it, not wait for a subpoena Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #25

I figured after that UN information hit the thread you'd declare you were done. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #26

No one is defending wrong doing, but accuse the right people of it not Cleita Jan 2014 #32

Yet, he missed defrocking HANNITY and O'LOOFAH!1 n/t UTUSN Jan 2014 #27

Well, they aren't priests but he can excommunicate them. Cleita Jan 2014 #33

Ha-HAH!1 Thanks for giving me the opening to use the Faux meme against them: UTUSN Jan 2014 #36

And there is no Pope to clean up the rest of Christianity BlueStreak Jan 2014 #28

+1000 Cleita Jan 2014 #34

At least the Catholics are held accountable. Can't say that about BlueStreak Jan 2014 #38

You might have heard that there is a UN investigation underway. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #37

Don't put words in my mouth. BlueStreak Jan 2014 #39

Was that fired minister prosecuted? I'll bet not. Cleita Jan 2014 #40

No. To my knowledge there were no consequences. BlueStreak Jan 2014 #41

This is average for child molestoers gerogie2 Jan 2014 #29