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Crunchy Frog

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151. WTF does that have to do with the issue at hand?

Reply to Lancero (Reply #80)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:19 PM

Mar 2014

Talk about changing the subject.

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Terrifying Precedent: Woman to Be Tried for Murder for Giving Birth to Stillborn When She Was 16 [View all] kpete Mar 2014 OP

At this rate we'll all be in burqas by 2050. Squinch Mar 2014 #1

Think what a Teabigot administration would do with health records. They'd go back and find every freshwest Mar 2014 #41

I totally agree. And don't look now, but now you can add any woman who delivered a stillborn baby. Squinch Mar 2014 #43

Have you ever read cindge Mar 2014 #47

Yes. One of my favorites, along with all of Margaret Atwood's other books. Squinch Mar 2014 #49

Ooh, now I've got to look for her other books. cindge Mar 2014 #66

Oh, you have to read her other books. Cat's Eye is good. Also Alias Grace, Bluebeard's Ghost. Squinch Mar 2014 #110

I now hate that book. Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #149

You & Squinch tea and oranges Mar 2014 #51

They'd have to destroy the Constitution to do it jmowreader Mar 2014 #148

They fully intend to destroy the Constiution. Ryan has promised that with a majority of RED states, freshwest Mar 2014 #150

I think they could rationalize doing so demigoddess Mar 2014 #178

Have to keep xxqqqzme Mar 2014 #116

Yep. jsr Mar 2014 #130

That's what they want get the red out Mar 2014 #133

This framing: "the rights of the unborn child" redqueen Mar 2014 #2

Bible says its not human until it takes its 1st breath. ErikJ Mar 2014 #6

And not only that, the christening is 30 days after the birth, assuming it survives that long. RC Mar 2014 #13

My greatgrand mother gave birth to six children. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #23

What, in Hebrew tradition? ErikJ Mar 2014 #97

Jews don't get christened (n/t) leftynyc Mar 2014 #102

That was/is their tradition. RC Mar 2014 #111

Jews do not get christened nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #124

But its law to have a name at birth ErikJ Mar 2014 #131

That is secular law nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #132

Which law is that please? nt. Mariana Mar 2014 #142

The Birth Certificate Law ErikJ Mar 2014 #143

i never heard that where and in which bible - not trying to start a fight just want to read that leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #24

It says it in a few places-heres' 2 ErikJ Mar 2014 #42

The bible also says that the punishment for murder is death and the punishment for inducing LeftyMom Mar 2014 #56

The bible had no problem with abortion, neither did Jesus Warpy Mar 2014 #61

Which Pope? ErikJ Mar 2014 #93

Pope Sixtus in 1588 Warpy Mar 2014 #96

Here's the Wikipedia entry ErikJ Mar 2014 #99

Pope Sixtus was infallible. So we must accept his decree. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #100

Genesis 2:7 ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #92

That sounds like a comic book story snooper2 Mar 2014 #117

thankyou leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #104

This. LeftOfWest Mar 2014 #12

This is outrageous. Damn. bettyellen Mar 2014 #3

The writing was on the wall when they started jailing women for falling down stairs while pregnant. redqueen Mar 2014 #4

Sing it, sister. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #8

Absolutely!!! theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #86

You're giving Neanderthals a bad rap there. geardaddy Mar 2014 #134

Holy shit! Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #152

omg, don't know what to say... Whisp Mar 2014 #5

Anyone who doesn't take women's rights seriously needs to wake the fuck up. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #7

+1,000,000 theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #87

and of course she is black JI7 Mar 2014 #9

African Americans and other minorities are usually where overreachers dip a toe in the water. JoeyT Mar 2014 #20

Oh, exactly. First they enact draconian decisions against people who 1) are Nay Mar 2014 #22

Black women can't fire a warning shot in Florida. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #101

And sadly sheshe2 Mar 2014 #10

Yes. Deny them healthcare and then arrest them for not caring for the fetus. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #113

Coroners are elected officials in Mississippi who do not require a medical degree. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #11

Seriously ...? etherealtruth Mar 2014 #15

No, no, no, that was a *miracle*, you see. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #17

OMG etherealtruth Mar 2014 #19

I. Had. No. Idea. CrispyQ Mar 2014 #26

MISSISSIPPI .. hate to say it but when I hear anything that comes out of that State > YOHABLO Mar 2014 #48

Hence the saying "Thank God for Mississippi!" KamaAina Mar 2014 #126

Why did you post this? JJChambers Mar 2014 #106

What's sad is all of these MEN would agree that life begins at 50. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #14

Just now going to trial? WTH? blackspade Mar 2014 #16

I think women need to get on some heavy-duty birth control as Ilsa Mar 2014 #18

This will lead to... dbackjon Mar 2014 #21

And this is why progressives fight to access to birth control.... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #25

There were no traces of cocaine in her system Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #32

Right On! tea and oranges Mar 2014 #50

Motivation? Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #53

Fuckin wow! Not even cocaine! uponit7771 Mar 2014 #58

And can this "byproduct" be replicated by otherwise legal or prescribed substances - haele Mar 2014 #118

It might not even be from an OTC medication or "herbal supplement". Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #121

This is government overreach, even with prenatal care problems still occurs. I would wonder in this Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #27

Why a Wisconsin woman was jailed: freshwest Mar 2014 #85

This should be a post on its own. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #91

I'm too angry and nauseated to say anything in this thread.... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #114

The discredited QUACK Steven Hayne testimony? Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #28

Something really doesn't add up here, the prosecutor's case to be exact. ck4829 Mar 2014 #29

She was only 15 sunnystarr Mar 2014 #123

Another country tooeyeten Mar 2014 #30

Mississippi. Or are you trying to make a joke? yardwork Mar 2014 #38

Not a joke tooeyeten Mar 2014 #62

This shit is ridiculous TxDemChem Mar 2014 #31

My son is alive only because they caught this while he was being born. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #33

This ruling is stupid. Period. Maedhros Mar 2014 #34

I think your question is valid, but perhaps unanswerable. cindge Mar 2014 #52

No question the solution to the problems you described is education and access Maedhros Mar 2014 #71

Never. Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #54

Never. ... Education about pre-natal care is a much better tactic than prosecution. Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #120

It had to be Mississippi. loudsue Mar 2014 #35

I agree with her being charged, just not what they are charging her with. Lancero Mar 2014 #36

Charged for using drugs while pregnant?????????? mrmpa Mar 2014 #39

cause of death was also the most obvious: the umbilical cord wrapped around her neck. pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #44

Which, if you actually read my post... Lancero Mar 2014 #79

Really? 16year old kid? Same for rich white girls who pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #82

Oh, fuck that sideways. n/t ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #95

Get lost. morningfog Mar 2014 #105

wtf??!! She may not even have known she was pregnant! Irregular periods are a common teen riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #45

There were no drugs found in her system uponit7771 Mar 2014 #59

How would that improve her circumstances? LeftyMom Mar 2014 #60

Women often have no idea that they are pregnant until weeks or even a couple of months tblue37 Mar 2014 #63

That justify's her using illegal drugs (cocaine) how? Lancero Mar 2014 #64

That's not how apostrophes work. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #68

That relates to this topic how? Lancero Mar 2014 #70

I asked you a question upthread and you didn't answer. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #72

Because your question was already answered. Lancero Mar 2014 #75

So we can add teenagers, drug abuse and addiction to the list of things you don't understand. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #76

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #77

LOL blueamy66 Mar 2014 #167

"...you seem more of a Righty then a Lefty." nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #98

He has also bought into the RW meme... freebrew Mar 2014 #115

Cocaine is addictive. Lucky Luciano Mar 2014 #140

So many nights staying up past dawn, half-hoping there's none left and half-hoping there is... nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #156

No, it's not. freebrew Mar 2014 #165

I agree no one should go to jail for using drugs. But cocaine is certainly addictive even if nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #155

Wow pipi_k Mar 2014 #74

Most are insecure and want to sound important. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #146

What a stupid response to a post. You grammar police must be insecure as hell. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #145

You were not arguing about punishing drug users--but if you were, tblue37 Mar 2014 #69

I was arguing that her being charged with murder for a natural... Lancero Mar 2014 #73

There were no drugs in her system, and "cocaine byproducts" in the fetus could mean tblue37 Mar 2014 #78

As I've said... Lancero Mar 2014 #80

But sincea woman might have no idea that she is pregnant, how on earth could she tblue37 Mar 2014 #81

A drunk driver might have no idea they are going to wreck... Lancero Mar 2014 #84

"Ignorance of circumstance isn't a excuse. " Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #108

That isn't parallel gollygee Mar 2014 #109

Ignorance about how medicine and law are practiced Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #153

WTF does that have to do with the issue at hand? Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #151

Sounds like the doctor should be prosecuted for murder Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #65

The question is valid, how? Lancero Mar 2014 #67

Aside from your desire to reduce women to incubators.... jeff47 Mar 2014 #128

On the SIDS back to sleep azurnoir Mar 2014 #136

Burkas soon if the GOP gets its way. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #37

Fuck pro-birthers obxhead Mar 2014 #40

I think for a lot of them that's already the case. Hence why they're usually such balls of sunshine. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #157

With all due respect to Mississippians, but Mississippi is one truly f'd up place!!! nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #46

Nina Simone - Mississippi Goddam pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #88

I like that. And let's not forget yes, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, etc. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #89

This is fucking insane Warpy Mar 2014 #55

Such evil from the persecution .. uponit7771 Mar 2014 #57

Damn. Here's a kick. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #83

That horse already left the barn lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #90

The fetus was far past Row v. Wade viability. joshcryer Mar 2014 #94

Very true davidpdx Mar 2014 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #103

Most pro-lifers are misogynists. Mariana Mar 2014 #119

All pro-lifers are misogynists. Pro-lifers think women should not have the right to bodily integrity redqueen Mar 2014 #122

This ^ PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #125

+1000, redqueen catbyte Mar 2014 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #159

Anti-choice is a misogynistic position. Always. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #127

you mean forced birther fizzgig Mar 2014 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #160

The solution to "these problems" is.... blueamy66 Mar 2014 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #170

you don't want women to have reproductive autonomy fizzgig Mar 2014 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #171

LOL. that's because anti-choicers are misogynists. its not a misconception. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #161

taking a healthcare choice away from women is a misogynistic stance REGARDLESS La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #172

I do not equate a living breathing human with a zygote whereas you so. uppityperson Mar 2014 #179

"Pro-lifer"? Fine. I just hope no women bleed to death in an alleyway thanks to your "advocacy." nt nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #162

Because that's the sort of thing that happens when abortion is outlawed. Just saying. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #163

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #173

Because when abortion is illegal, women who desperately don't want to be pregnant will still nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #175

Looks like there is not going to be proof even that the treestar Mar 2014 #107

Didn't believe that this crap goes on....buy yep it's true - are we on the same planet????? burfman Mar 2014 #129

I cannot believe this will stand up in the courts lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #177

At what point... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #135

Traces of a cocaine byproduct as cause of death seems a stretch azurnoir Mar 2014 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #174

much too familiar kpete Mar 2014 #144

hey weissmam Mar 2014 #147

Hell, drag Rick Sanctorum and his wife in front of one for her late term abortion to save her life. freshwest Mar 2014 #154

I wonder if it will ever come to a point that yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #164

Lest not forget the Seven Mountain Dominionist Movement... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #176