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In reply to the discussion: "Lets work together to end racism" is more constructive than "whites need to check their privilege". [View all]name not needed
(11,660 posts)138. Well of course they do. What are you, some kind of MRA?
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"Lets work together to end racism" is more constructive than "whites need to check their privilege". [View all]
Nye Bevan
May 2014
OP
"Let's watch out for one another" is a much less offensive sign at the swimming pool than...
LanternWaste
May 2014
#1
Becoming aware of the problem is, however, a good first step. The next step needs to be how to
uppityperson
May 2014
#2
Sad, but yeah. Every thread has a sad ass wanting an apology because someone not white was rude once
bettyellen
May 2014
#11
And of course white people's opinions should be prioritized in discussions about racism
redqueen
May 2014
#3
White peoples opinions are paramount, especially the uninformed and self interested ones.
bettyellen
May 2014
#13
Did you not know that there is a difference in some and none? There actually is.
bettyellen
May 2014
#37
I also understand the definition of "any" (meaning at least one)...not all as you imply
Supersedeas
May 2014
#83
"self interested"? You do realize you're walking straight into the white nationalist trap right?
alp227
May 2014
#210
If only someone would explain how acknowledging privilege doesn't mean "you're a bad person"
NuclearDem
May 2014
#14
You should ask the White men on this board who disagree with you if that is what THEY get
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#45
If white males don't have "full ownership" of the problem (racism/sexism) then who does? n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#164
I agree insofar as we all need to do our best to be part of the solution, whatever that means on an
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#199
I don't see the Obamas, Hillary Clinton and Liz Warren using the phrase "white privilege" very much.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#18
I don't see them using the phrase "Cap'n Crunch" much either. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Squinch
May 2014
#76
"We women and minorities....." As if all women and People of Color agreed with you 100%.....EOM.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#135
It's such a relief not to have to have opinions about our lives, isn't it? Phew!
Squinch
May 2014
#146
And to think of all the time i wasted when i could have been learning my place.
bravenak
May 2014
#149
Well we better learn our places quickly. Whenever we express our opinions they have no choice but
Squinch
May 2014
#173
I've been schooled several times by black people when I said something stupid
wryter2000
May 2014
#59
me too! and I learned a lot. Wonder why peeps here think they know it all.....
bettyellen
May 2014
#94
"Every time you post about how people shouldn't talk about white privilege, you announce loudly that
kwassa
May 2014
#112
How many times and in how many ways does that need to be said before it sinks in?
redqueen
May 2014
#179
The first is a goal the second is PART of the mechanics on HOW to do the first....
uponit7771
May 2014
#5
Minorities are becoming a larger portion of the electorate. Does it make sense to piss THEM off?
Squinch
May 2014
#84
the end doesn't begin until privilege is fully acknowledged and fully understood
Supersedeas
May 2014
#8
I agree. The first step is to admit there's a problem with white privilege.
Louisiana1976
May 2014
#63
what the lily privilege is...and whenever (if ever) the lily privilege maybe irrelevant
Supersedeas
May 2014
#86
Sure, but it's not the only valid one. You need an MLK *and* a Malcolm X, so to speak.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#165
I'm not sure it's quite that simple. More moderate, conciliatory voices certainly are/were valid and
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#198
That statement essentially negates any responsibility from the side that benefits most from it.
M0rpheus
May 2014
#23
We can acknowledge each other's differences while still being "color blind" in a way.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#182
"He wanted changes to happen to make that non-judgement be a reality." Basically what I just said...
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#189
Apparently, treating people based upon their character rather than their skin color is racist,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#55
and that idiotic Princeton student.... yeah it's a RW talking point for ignoring race issues
bettyellen
May 2014
#62
"character rather than skin color" did not originate in the Roberts court (nt)
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#108
You know what? I've read others of your posts. You are not an unintelligent person.
Squinch
May 2014
#89
Yes. A thousand times yes. nt (P.S., see post 182 for further clarification).
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#181
God knows I am no longer looking for all men here to live up to the values they profess to have.
bettyellen
May 2014
#93
AWESOME !!! Maybe we can get somewhere now. I think we have everything we need, right?
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#162
Actually listening to the viewpoints of the socially marginalized is more constructive....
YoungDemCA
May 2014
#32
your blythe dismissal of "whatever social justice once meant".... Never something that interested
bettyellen
May 2014
#65
it's a direct quote from your post, so just walk backwards out of the thread and maybe no one else
bettyellen
May 2014
#74
Your "Whatever 'Social Justice' once meant" betrays prior ignorance and disinterest in social
bettyellen
May 2014
#82
Ahh, I get it. You don't read what I write well, or don't interpret it well, or something...
Shandris
May 2014
#87
"Whatever 'Social Justice' once meant" betrays your disinterest and dismissive attitude
bettyellen
May 2014
#85
So.. white people are still racists because POC are too nasty? Their problems are real but ignored
bettyellen
May 2014
#183
I have been one of the biggest advocates of Obamacare on this discussion board.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#106
WOW. A "poor me, I'm not the top dog in Cambodia" post! I actually should save this link becuse
bettyellen
May 2014
#78
Hmmm. Perhaps knocking on white people's doors and angrily confronting them about their "privilege"
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#110
You seem to be saying that you would not use this approach in the real world.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#130
Unfortunately, it kinda seems like you haven't looked in all the right places, TBH(no offense).
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#191
Stating that saying "whites need to check their privilege" is not the most constructive approach
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#160
You are still hung up on this? We cannot end racism UNTIL whites check their privilege.
morningfog
May 2014
#148
Fuck constructive. We are long overdue to deconstruct racism in this country.
morningfog
May 2014
#152
how depressing to see 15 recommends (so far) on a white people double down thread.
m-lekktor
May 2014
#163
Not sure if you have lurked and are familiar with the players here, but if it is any comfort
Squinch
May 2014
#174
I hate to say this, but we're not the ones who have a cluelessness problem.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#195
Oh, yes you are. You don't begin to understand the concept you are arguing against.
kwassa
May 2014
#222
Yes. Let's. No problem. Except when the gratuitous, unconscious playaz deny they motives.
ancianita
May 2014
#169
Is that because all races kept slaves in America? Because all races have shared in the power
WinkyDink
May 2014
#171
"Let's work together to end racism" is more constructive than "white privilege doesn't exist!!11!"
fishwax
May 2014
#204
True, though I'd argue that the latter is mainly a reaction to some of the nastier stuff............
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#215