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OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
20. It would be so helpful...
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:16 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)

if we could arrive at succinct definitions for racism, bigotry and prejudice.

FINAL EDIT: I just succeeded in confusing the shit out of myself.

Maybe prejudice is thought...bigotry is behavior...racism is systemic (but racism is limited to ethnic bigotry).

I'm now so confused that I created an OP to get help...lol

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025418002




EDIT TO ADD the following; need to shorten them into soundbites:

Prejudice:
The word prejudice refers to prejudgment: making a decision before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case or event. The word has commonly been used in certain restricted contexts, in the expression 'racial prejudice'. Initially this is referred to making a judgment about a person based on their race, religion, class, etc., before receiving information relevant to the particular issue on which a judgment was being made; it came, however, to be widely used to refer to any hostile attitude towards people based on their race or even by just judging someone without even knowing them. Subsequently the word has come to be widely so interpreted in this way in contexts other than those relating to race. The meaning now is frequently "any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence".[1] Race, sex, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, and religion have a history of inciting prejudicial behavior.

Bigotry:
A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding state of mind. Bigot is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false or not universally applicable or acceptable.

(But people who are bigoted toward others for any number of reasons also often feel they are superior, so I'm confused???)


Racism:
Racism, by its definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discriminiation.
They all mean similar, yet different things as you can see.


Edit to add perhaps these as summaries:

PREJUDICE = Prejudgment based on any number of factors

BIGOTRY = Intransigence intolerance of persons or lifestyles different from one's own

RACISM = Individual beliefs and systems which hold that one ethnicity is superior to another


I am racist, and so are you. [View all] KamaAina Aug 2014 OP
Please speak for yourself Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #1
so if you’re walking down a street at night and a group busterbrown Aug 2014 #5
Not bullshit Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #9
Um cwydro Aug 2014 #17
If they are wearing hoodies at night I don't think I can tell what race a person is. dilby Aug 2014 #39
I did not mention race cwydro Aug 2014 #69
If I saw a black man walking towards me in a business suit, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #42
I ride the Metro every day in Los Angeles DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author notadmblnd Aug 2014 #77
I live & work in North Philadelphia. The chances are pretty good that, in my entire day Heddi Aug 2014 #91
That you pretend race is never a factor is a serious problem. nt BainsBane Aug 2014 #40
+1 joeybee12 Aug 2014 #82
Racism and prejudice are two different things. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #2
Thank you! People have trouble discerning the difference between the two. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #8
Yep. And that is a BIG difference hifiguy Aug 2014 #14
racism has come to mean any negative view of any race ProdigalJunkMail Aug 2014 #15
true, but... Enrique Aug 2014 #16
It would be so helpful... OneGrassRoot Aug 2014 #20
Excellent post. hifiguy Aug 2014 #28
Thanks! I just edited to add my own attempt to summarize... OneGrassRoot Aug 2014 #32
That hits the nail on the head. hifiguy Aug 2014 #62
... handmade34 Aug 2014 #80
Yes cwydro Aug 2014 #21
Yes. Thank you. 840high Aug 2014 #34
Unrec. TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #3
You do realize, pipi_k Aug 2014 #22
She's also projecting. TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #29
... Kali Aug 2014 #36
this is excellent Enrique Aug 2014 #4
Hmmm...I lived alone and raised three daughters, never had an image like that pop in my head. Avalux Aug 2014 #6
I have thoughts, reactions and feelings that are based solely on race. Brickbat Aug 2014 #7
The Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles had this message when I visited some 15 years or so ago stevenleser Aug 2014 #10
every person's "certain people" is different, true. I have a few serious hard core rocker friends bettyellen Aug 2014 #30
I often have to check myself the same way. Quayblue Aug 2014 #92
Well, not me leftynyc Aug 2014 #11
I disagree with the premise WestCoastLib Aug 2014 #12
Uh, no. a la izquierda Aug 2014 #13
So ashamed to admit this Thirties Child Aug 2014 #18
I think I love you for this post! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #31
good post Kali Aug 2014 #43
Thanks for the welcome. Thirties Child Aug 2014 #71
Honesty and Recognition is the first step to understanding. Good post. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #66
No. I am not a racist. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #19
Hey, stop denying your inevitable internalized systemic racial prejudices. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #56
It's "Or something" ... In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #61
Reads to me like someone who thinks they are a teacher... NCTraveler Aug 2014 #23
but doing it honestly Enrique Aug 2014 #26
Well, I picture a crazed Duck Dynasty wannabe creeping around or frogmarch Aug 2014 #24
I picture a man. redqueen Aug 2014 #27
Yes, one thing is pretty much for sure cwydro Aug 2014 #38
Probably about the safest assumption you can possibly make (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author hifiguy Aug 2014 #59
Ugh. PLEASE tell me this white woman doesn't launch into an explanation of how redqueen Aug 2014 #25
Thank you... 4commonsense Aug 2014 #37
Reading not your strong suit? redqueen Aug 2014 #41
OMG some dumbass jury left it Kali Aug 2014 #45
Not sure... cyberswede Aug 2014 #47
ah... Kali Aug 2014 #50
Surely you aren't surprised. redqueen Aug 2014 #49
well, kinda Kali Aug 2014 #51
They sure love threads about racism and sexism, don't they? redqueen Aug 2014 #54
I'm not ___________, but... Kali Aug 2014 #57
Everyone's a little racist.. sir pball Aug 2014 #33
OMG what a narrow-minded twit. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #35
Blogger is a racist and tries to feel better about it by claiming that so is everyone else. (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #44
she can overcome her prejudices Enrique Aug 2014 #46
I hope she can. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #52
she wants to Enrique Aug 2014 #55
I Doubt That's Her Goal ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #60
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #87
You A Special Little Snowflake, Fella, Ain'tcha.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #88
It's an odd story DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #73
I think of it this way: We are all influenced by racist ideas and practices BainsBane Aug 2014 #48
good post Kali Aug 2014 #64
Excellent post -n/t Zenlitened Aug 2014 #78
Anybody WI_DEM Aug 2014 #58
Agreed! LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #63
Racism is a brainwashing tool employed by the ruling class to keep the masses valerief Aug 2014 #65
Projecting her bigoted assumptions to make herself feel better LittleBlue Aug 2014 #67
Nope. Merely trying to start a discussion. KamaAina Aug 2014 #70
hopefully handmade34 Aug 2014 #81
You think? KamaAina Aug 2014 #84
I must admit that I am a bit prejudiced against the human race, tblue37 Aug 2014 #68
These are the people I feared CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #74
Add Ted Bundy and Aileen Wournos to that list and it greatly increases the deathcount. nt stevenleser Aug 2014 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #89
No I'm not...first thing that pops into my head is white pillhead. ileus Aug 2014 #75
Of course we all know this....we read DU. cbdo2007 Aug 2014 #79
I have enough black friends who feel comfortable pointing out to me when I have Squinch Aug 2014 #83
I agree Vattel Aug 2014 #85
the author of this handmade34 Aug 2014 #86
I fart in her general direction. RagAss Aug 2014 #90
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