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You know what? It's simply a fact that Assad is killing people [View all] cali Apr 2012 OP

totally agree. The slaughter is the starting point from which any/everything else springs DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #1

I've been beating this same drum. The same goes for the underreported situation in Bahrain as well. Cleita Apr 2012 #2

Some of the responses here to the Arab spring have been all too predictable RZM Apr 2012 #3

Those trying to minimize the rebels from the outset, I have a theory, have Cleita Apr 2012 #5

My theory is that it's mostly just classic 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' RZM Apr 2012 #8

I have seen American foreign policy in action quite close in other countries. I do not care for our Cleita Apr 2012 #10

Could you elaborate on this? Boojatta Apr 2012 #19

Killing the draft for one opened up the opportunity to hire mercenaries, outsource Cleita Apr 2012 #25

How should I interpret this? Boojatta Apr 2012 #43

The whole "foreigners can't have agency of any sort" thing is probably my biggest pet peeve here. nt Posteritatis Apr 2012 #14

They are the "West is Evil" brigade. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #69

Exactly. I will never understand where this extreme hatred of their country comes from Daniel537 Apr 2012 #75

They are like the Western Communists who adored Stalin in the 30s and 40s. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #77

Yes, that was a very hurtful realization I had when it came to the Arab Spring. joshcryer Apr 2012 #102

Russia and China do not want abelenkpe Apr 2012 #4

Agree. Assad is a bad guy, but so are the ones who are murdering people to replace him. leveymg Apr 2012 #6

Who are the ones murdering people to replace him? Cleita Apr 2012 #7

Apparently, you didn't read about the suicide car bombings and assassinations. leveymg Apr 2012 #11

Apparently you have. Do you have links? n/t Cleita Apr 2012 #13

Here's the first five that came up when I Googled "Syria car bombings" leveymg Apr 2012 #18

considering that the syrian dictatorship doesn't allow journalists into the country Daniel537 Apr 2012 #15

Here's Human Rights Watch on the Free Syrian Army Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #17

How are attacks on Syrian security forces "human rights abuses"? Daniel537 Apr 2012 #20

Torture, kidnapping, and extrajudicial executions are NOT human rights abuses? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #22

What exactly is an "extrajudicial execution" in these circumstances? Daniel537 Apr 2012 #24

I think lynching somebody would probably qualify. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #32

I don't excuse anything, i merely recognize that people who have suffered for years Daniel537 Apr 2012 #33

Unfortunately, war is not played by rules, however, it was the peaceful demonstrators Cleita Apr 2012 #40

by ALL reports there are plenty of regular people protesting- and dying cali Apr 2012 #9

But, you didn't read that most of the victims of sniper attacks that started all this were policemen leveymg Apr 2012 #16

Shooting at policemen is perfectly legitimate in an armed conflict. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #21

There hadn't been any shooting until then. Not for years. leveymg Apr 2012 #27

Who said they wanted to spark a civil war? Daniel537 Apr 2012 #30

"that started all this" Boojatta Apr 2012 #23

See immediately above. leveymg Apr 2012 #28

Its sickening that this is even worth arguing. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #12

You are very right. Cleita Apr 2012 #26

Please don't confuse context with defense of that regime. My biggest problem is that this won't leveymg Apr 2012 #29

All hell is going to break loose across the world because Assad is overthrown? Daniel537 Apr 2012 #31

Fortunately, Clapper has a better handle of things there than you do. Here's what he said about leveymg Apr 2012 #34

And fortunately for Clapper he doesn't have to live inside Syria. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #39

All hell could well break loose across the Middle East. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #36

"Could" Daniel537 Apr 2012 #37

"We had to destroy the village to save the village." leveymg Apr 2012 #101

In this information age, we cannot sit back and watch a country kill its own people. Cleita Apr 2012 #35

Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that. The murdering is on all sides, including the outside leveymg Apr 2012 #38

This is war. Cleita Apr 2012 #45

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Some "would have even opposed"? Opposed what? It was not even on the table then. Fool Count Apr 2012 #56

If you had read what I said, it was because people didn't have the communication we have today, Cleita Apr 2012 #58

The only reason you didn't know about it was that your rulers didn't want you to know Fool Count Apr 2012 #61

How old are you? Cleita Apr 2012 #67

This "fool" is no longer among us... ellisonz Apr 2012 #84

The US/British/French/Canadian position was that winning the war was quickest way to help. ellisonz Apr 2012 #83

How in bloody hell do you know this for sure? green juice Apr 2012 #41

Buy a first-class ticket to Homs and then get back to us. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #44

Looks like poster is no longer with us. Cleita Apr 2012 #49

I Had NO Idea That "Santorum" Was Green... WillyT Apr 2012 #51

Yep! Cleita Apr 2012 #53

Aww, too bad. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #52

You've got it. Cleita Apr 2012 #54

Yep... K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #46

Its all fake! Globalist, NWO lies! Daniel537 Apr 2012 #47

Repeating anti-Syrian propaganda for a millionth time Fool Count Apr 2012 #48

lol, the only anti-Syrian here is Bashar Assad, who is slaughtering Syrians. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #50

LOL. When Galileo said "And still it moves". That's when it became chic to not Fool Count Apr 2012 #57

The man is murdering his own people. He started it. He started a civil war. Cleita Apr 2012 #60

Keep repeating the lies hoping that they come true. I am not afraid of anything. And I am not Fool Count Apr 2012 #63

Well, now we know who you are. Cleita Apr 2012 #68

And now, "He's dead, Jim" (finally!) :) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #82

Yeppers. Cleita Apr 2012 #87

don't you think that's in poor taste? Alamuti Lotus Apr 2012 #97

Did you read why the poster was PPR'd? pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #108

Big mistake Dokkie Apr 2012 #96

Propaganda? For fuck's sake cali Apr 2012 #55

There are so many propaganda memes in this one sentence, I don't know where to start. Fool Count Apr 2012 #59

Look Fool-iyo, I offer you a 'privet' RZM Apr 2012 #62

Lies are lies. Just because you repeat them constantly doesn't make them true. Fool Count Apr 2012 #66

You are repeating the lies about this. Cleita Apr 2012 #71

I'm going to go out on a limb here RZM Apr 2012 #72

Sooner-later, it doesn't matter, what's few more years or even decades in the large Fool Count Apr 2012 #76

So the US 'belongs in the dustbin already?' RZM Apr 2012 #79

Fool Count is in the dustbin...PPRoni'd, that is :) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #89

I saw that in a meta thread RZM Apr 2012 #91

. inna Apr 2012 #92

Thanks! I'm not one to check profiles that often... joshcryer Apr 2012 #103

you are so right. why you're so stuck on repeating lies is a mystery to me cali Apr 2012 #98

oy. inna Apr 2012 #88

Please . . . the poster did nothing but pimp the Russian Federation RZM Apr 2012 #90

enlighten... wtf does any of this have to do with the russian federation?? inna Apr 2012 #93

Type 'fool count' into the DU search RZM Apr 2012 #95

Yes, his defense of Putin and the hateful regard for Russian protesters... joshcryer Apr 2012 #104

Why don't you give evidence instead of snark? Odin2005 Apr 2012 #65

Evidence? For fucks sake. You have the whole history behind you. Look at it. Carefully. Fool Count Apr 2012 #70

Typical you, just keep on snarking without evidence. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #74

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HEY! Drool Fool Count! YOU are a PATHETIC LOSER!!! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #105

I will say this. I don't think that such obvious anti-American sentiment really belongs here RZM Apr 2012 #80

I remember seeing the genocide in Bosnia and Rwanda on the news as a kid... Odin2005 Apr 2012 #64

+1 Daniel537 Apr 2012 #73

+1000 I have experienced this in my own life. Vehl Apr 2012 #81

Has anyone here actually DENIED that Assad was killing people? n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #85

quite a few people here have defended his killing people. cali Apr 2012 #100

what is this crap, now?... missed the context inna Apr 2012 #86

What do you propose? Taverner Apr 2012 #94

Nothing. That's not the point of the OP. I'm just cali Apr 2012 #99

Understood Taverner Apr 2012 #106

I don't think there is an answer- at least I don't think there is an answer cali Apr 2012 #107

Because people were predicting a Civil War in Syria long *before* the Arab Spring. ieoeja Apr 2012 #109