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157. Have you apologized for quoting Israel Shamir?

Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:47 PM

Dec 2014

I'll break this down for you real easy like:

I don't want people to think I'm possibly racist, because I'm not. So let's pretend David Duke comes out quoted in an article on something I agree with. Let's say David Duke says "Assange is a coward hiding from the Swedish judicial system and blaming the US." I'd agree with that statement. But what I wouldn't do is using that article that quotes a known racist to justify my own position.

And then let's pretend DUer anonymousDUer had started a thread with the same sentiment a year and a half ago, but in August 2013 they were banned by Skinner for "racist". But to back up my David Duke reference I say "some great DUers agree with me" and I link to anonymousDUer's thread.

What would happen, and rightfully so, is I'd get criticizes and "attacked" for using not one, but two racists to back me up. And some people would probably then assume I'm a racist.

So to avoid that, I don't link to racists. And if I did quote a person and honestly didn't realize David Duke is racist, I'd fucking apologize and not dig my heels in.

But you have chosen to not do that. And you expect other DUers to apologize to you, for your actions. What hubris. So people may think you agree with some antisemitic views because of your post about Israel Shamir and then linking to Fire Walk With Me's OP. Then you slyly tried to accuse another active poster of I guess keeping a list of why people are banned, and think you're being attacked when a few posters, within 5 min of your post, point out that it's in the banned poster's profile.

To sum it up: I can only speak for myself, I see no fucking reason to apologize to you.

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Attended a salon with Hillary Clinton tonight... [View all] brooklynite Dec 2014 OP

They say you get more conservative LiberalElite Dec 2014 #1

I find myself moving farther left as I age dflprincess Dec 2014 #27

I find both are true! LongTomH Dec 2014 #153

Peter Yarrow May be "more conservative" but he is a convicted... Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #104

I think she might wait till late winter or early spring to announce. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #2

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She will run and win. I guess we just disagree. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #9

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Ok you are being very rude here! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #15

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yeah but you will still vote for her basically. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #22

Speaking of tired old stories ... n/t NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #83

so the voters reject candidates with skeletons in their closets? DrDan Dec 2014 #87

I've heard the "Hillary is the inevitable nomineee" thing before. nt TeamPooka Dec 2014 #50

yes you have but I was giving my opinion. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #51

apparently from Hillary bashers... brooklynite Dec 2014 #52

I have said that. joshcryer Dec 2014 #57

She will not win. You must have some republican votes, and they don't see her as an alternative TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #119

Hillary has the best chance for a Democratic third term imo. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #120

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Dec 2014 #20

Wow that was quick! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #102

Of course he is! Everyone knows "Puff the Magic Dragon" is an allegory... LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #3

you're on a roll! BootinUp Dec 2014 #4

+1 hrmjustin Dec 2014 #12

Good one! marym625 Dec 2014 #11

Both are on a Book Selling Tour, I think. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #5

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Puzzled... brooklynite Dec 2014 #10

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Um, OK: no, no, they tried that before, she's not running? brooklynite Dec 2014 #24

She hasn't announced it Aerows Dec 2014 #73

The thing about your #2 when you endorse Warren is that Warren was an actual adult Republican Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #25

I'm going to guess that crickets is going to be the response you will get. stevenleser Dec 2014 #26

Crickets? No. A similar post by him/her was shot full of holes with no rebuttal. Can't back up .. Scuba Dec 2014 #108

If Warren runs she will go down in flames BootinUp Dec 2014 #28

Mine too. She has a lots of real estate deals to explain. leftofcool Dec 2014 #48

I do find it a concern but less vexing than Clinton's recent and current positions in critical areas TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #44

And Ronald Reagan began as a Democrat. RiverLover Dec 2014 #90

"do we want that thing to be our first woman President?" cyberswede Dec 2014 #32

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I don't disagree re: progressive issues, but people aren't "things" cyberswede Dec 2014 #36

Hillary Clinton is a SOS, Senator, First Lady, Mother, Wife, Daughter, and Friend. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #38

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Yes she is a person. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #40

... SidDithers Dec 2014 #41

oh dear BootinUp Dec 2014 #53

Uh oh. The Troll Buster has been summoned! Number23 Dec 2014 #75

For the OP? RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #91

"If *ANYTHING* at all for a woman President"???? pnwmom Dec 2014 #43

I have rarely read something on DU that screams 'PUMA' more than your screed above muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #86

So, she said to you that she is running for president? What else did she say? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #7

No she didn't...but I can make informed assumptions from her message and body language..... brooklynite Dec 2014 #17

"One nice thing about being a deep pockets Democratic funder: ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #23

I met lots of people and went to very WhiteTara Dec 2014 #56

Ye, so have I. I've met every president since Reagan and have met and campaigned with Hillary. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #58

Yep, you just have to offer up some time WhiteTara Dec 2014 #61

Exactly. All you need after that is beer and travel money.... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #63

Gosh, I was always served wine WhiteTara Dec 2014 #68

"I am due beer and travel money and many experiences"... GReedDiamond Dec 2014 #80

Still former, as far as I know. Legendary? Yes. And a hat-tip if he is still watching. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #97

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God. Does your pretentiousness know no bounds? morningfog Dec 2014 #165

Well, if you go somewhere (to an event) you know what you're getting n/t UTUSN Dec 2014 #13

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...and yet you took the time to reply. brooklynite Dec 2014 #21

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Lol, you hit that nail on the head. nt Union Scribe Dec 2014 #42

And it doesn't sound any less douchey every time we're reminded either. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2014 #45

My mother always says money can't buy class. Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #46

Considering that some people here are willing to insist that Elizabeth Warren is running... brooklynite Dec 2014 #47

We appreciate the news! BootinUp Dec 2014 #49

i don't support Hillary and i like to hear the info JI7 Dec 2014 #70

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Interesting report on the get together. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #82

It only offended some... Phentex Dec 2014 #110

Which fundraiser... Landrieu's (pro-Keystone) or the League of Conservation Voters (anti-Keystone)? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #29

Is a salon like where you get your nails done? postulater Dec 2014 #30

Been better if you went to a saloon. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #31

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Wealthy establishement Dem name dropping noted. Eyes rolled, rude hand gesture made. LeftyMom Dec 2014 #54

This person delights in displaying wealth Aerows Dec 2014 #66

Don't forget the racism! RandiFan1290 Dec 2014 #88

How nice. Aerows Dec 2014 #125

I used to actually like you. But this boastfulness and pride are ugly, closeupready Dec 2014 #55

Sorry if you're offended... brooklynite Dec 2014 #59

I think you offended quite a few people Aerows Dec 2014 #62

People don't want to be exposed to the real world. joshcryer Dec 2014 #65

Not all of us have the humanity to be "deep pockets" donors who attend "salons" with Hillary Clinton Fumesucker Dec 2014 #76

The response would be the same if it was a book signing. joshcryer Dec 2014 #77

The OP has a history of this sort of self-effacing modesty Fumesucker Dec 2014 #78

you don't need deep pockets to support a candidate JI7 Dec 2014 #84

There a difference between the support you and I have for a candidate progressoid Dec 2014 #131

until something can be done about campaign finance candidates will need to do these to win JI7 Dec 2014 #149

Ok, in the spirit of being big tent, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. closeupready Dec 2014 #67

It didn't come off very Aerows Dec 2014 #69

the boasting is more about Hillary being the Nominee than personal wealth JI7 Dec 2014 #64

And you think this resonates Aerows Dec 2014 #60

"Let them eat cake" LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #164

"My family isn't impacted" Aerows Dec 2014 #166

I'll say this much-- you're an excellent representative for your candidate of choice. /nt Marr Dec 2014 #72

Nicely put. RiverLover Dec 2014 #89

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Absolutely Aerows Dec 2014 #126

Yes indeed. Speaks volumes. n/t pa28 Dec 2014 #132

+1,000 LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #134

As I'm always telling Bono. Name dropping is so lame. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2014 #74

Well fine then. Puglover Dec 2014 #144

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Thanks for the post. pamela Dec 2014 #81

a salon? how pretentious can you get? cali Dec 2014 #85

I fell off my chair laughing cwydro Dec 2014 #92

Translation: Use 3rd grade words to preserve some phony concern for the less well off. FSogol Dec 2014 #101

It's because the word "salon" is so French mainer Dec 2014 #105

Exactly. I almost expected someone to start bashing John Kerry. FSogol Dec 2014 #111

LOL. Good ol' Cali. Sure gonna miss you when you're gone wyldwolf Dec 2014 #150

dear brooklynite, GRACE: On a site where there are people in real financial cali Dec 2014 #93

You speak for me on this matter. Thanks! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #100

Translation: No one should eat ice cream since some people can't afford ice cream. FSogol Dec 2014 #103

Is that the democratic Christian translation? aspirant Dec 2014 #127

I don't understand all the grousing about this post mainer Dec 2014 #94

It's fairly obvious. cali Dec 2014 #95

So you'd rather not hear any info from anyone who happens to be wealthy? mainer Dec 2014 #96

what information? progressoid Dec 2014 #130

Translation: Join us in bashing a Democratic party supporter! FSogol Dec 2014 #99

OMG...wealth !!!! Sheepshank Dec 2014 #122

I don't either. And they will follow him from thread to thread to get a dig in... Phentex Dec 2014 #107

Salon: a definition mainer Dec 2014 #98

I thought they were just sitting around getting their hair done snooper2 Dec 2014 #162

Hey, I have musical salons in my house all the time! mainer Dec 2014 #106

If you are an architect or arch student, you attend salons all the time. We hold charrettes too! FSogol Dec 2014 #113

Is that like a BBQ with briquettes? mainer Dec 2014 #115

Thank god, I didn't tell DU that I attended a Charrette. I'd get BBQed FSogol Dec 2014 #116

The vitriol expressed towards this OP is disgusting. tammywammy Dec 2014 #109

Very true. n/t FSogol Dec 2014 #112

Tell me about it. Octafish Dec 2014 #118

I'm not sure I understand your point. tammywammy Dec 2014 #135

Vitriol. Octafish Dec 2014 #137

Here's my only post to you in that thread: tammywammy Dec 2014 #141

Thanks, yeah. It was the third one in that sub-thread saying the same thing. Octafish Dec 2014 #154

Have you apologized for quoting Israel Shamir? tammywammy Dec 2014 #157

You linked to Israel Shamir, over and over again. Even if you don't believe that he is an anti- msanthrope Dec 2014 #142

No. The only thing being said over and over again is your smear. Octafish Dec 2014 #155

Are you still not understanding that you were rightfully critiqued because you linked to Holocaust msanthrope Dec 2014 #139

Thanks for proving my point. Octafish Dec 2014 #143

Octafish, take responsibility for the fact that you are linking to anti-Semites. No one msanthrope Dec 2014 #147

The new DU Octafish Dec 2014 #156

Again...no one has called you an anti-Semite. But you cannot escape the consequences of your msanthrope Dec 2014 #158

Guess they just don't get it. zappaman Dec 2014 #160

Crop circle logic. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #161

Apples and oranges, my friend. zappaman Dec 2014 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #167

I agree Andy823 Dec 2014 #145

Not to mention..... Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #163

From all I have seen here on DU, Hillary does not have the base. So many are unhappy with her TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #121

DU is not the base. nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #123

DU comprises people that go to the polls, though Aerows Dec 2014 #128

both Obama and Hillary combined had less support than Kucinich did on DU JI7 Dec 2014 #148

^ truth! Though some here don't want to hear that. wyldwolf Dec 2014 #151

You may not want to hear about her problems Andy823 Dec 2014 #146

I guess the BIG question is... adirondacker Dec 2014 #124

Green. Octafish Dec 2014 #138

Thanks for being brave enough to post this. Apparently many here think our candidates win magically Rowdyboy Dec 2014 #129

You have MONEY?!? How DARE you post here! We don't need your kind to keep the White House in 2016. Metric System Dec 2014 #133

It's not the money LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #136

A swing and a miss. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #140

pretty much sums it up. Lots of faux outrage in this thread. wyldwolf Dec 2014 #152