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28. So the identity of the people involved

Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:04 PM

Jul 2015

changes the definitions of the words? The number of people involved changes the definitions of blackmail and extortion and negotiation?

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Syriza in shock over creditors' demands [View all] muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 OP

It could and if Merkel doesn't like Syriza Warpy Jul 2015 #1

You would think someone has a secret emergency plan developed in the last 6 months. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #2

"Too big to fail " can apply to a country, too DFW Jul 2015 #6

Paul Krugman says there isn't starroute Jul 2015 #15

"it’s a grotesque betrayal of everything the European project was supposed to stand for" PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #16

Yes, it's worse starroute Jul 2015 #20

They got swindled Nevernose Jul 2015 #37

You can't lay all of Greece's financial problems at the feet of a few oligarchs or bankers mythology Jul 2015 #44

Can I hear an 'amen'? Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #55

You can't call it a "swindle" when they were paying Goldman Sachs to lie for them Recursion Jul 2015 #51

There's no chance of the communists winning muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #3

"Winning" would mean a chunk of a coalition government Warpy Jul 2015 #7

They wouldn't be a junior member of a coalition muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #8

If a "New Drachma" isn't convertible DFW Jul 2015 #4

The black markets will be how a lot of them survive. Warpy Jul 2015 #9

Merkel as a hardliner is a myth spun by the ones who paint her photo with a Hitler mustache DFW Jul 2015 #46

Hey, DFW, glad you dared to wade in here - SO spot on... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #56

Where is Syriza getting the money for "issuing bank cards"? brooklynite Jul 2015 #10

I guess in the scenario listed they would be printing Drachmas like mad? I dont think folks rooting stevenleser Jul 2015 #25

It could be Euro-pegged IOUs, sort of like Brazil's transitional currency Recursion Jul 2015 #53

Economics 101... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #57

The KKE has been inept Depaysement Jul 2015 #11

The KKE were the only ones telling the truth about Syriza... AOR Jul 2015 #18

So change will never come Depaysement Jul 2015 #23

You say: "So change will never come"... AOR Jul 2015 #27

Who cares about a rock solid analysis . . . Depaysement Jul 2015 #34

Not exactly sure what you are trying to say on this Depaysement... AOR Jul 2015 #36

Exactly Depaysement Jul 2015 #38

Well...not being on the ground there or involved... AOR Jul 2015 #45

Perhaps they wil be rewarded after all Depaysement Jul 2015 #48

Well again the KKE was spot on in calling it like it is... AOR Jul 2015 #62

I may have a way out Depaysement Jul 2015 #64

Not sure where you stand... AOR Jul 2015 #65

Hey there, Depaysement...you probably still have me on 'ignore', but on the off-chance... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #59

The Greek Civil War - 1946–1949. Today's Greeks (by 66.5%) want to stay in the EU and the Euro-zone Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #58

The alternative in this case is the far right: Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #49

makes you wonder which German Bank put so fresh cash in Tsipras' Swiss bank account JCMach1 Jul 2015 #5

So that thing about the referendum "no" vote strengthening Greece's negotiating position, Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #12

Unfortunately he choose a finance minister that wrote a book on game theory and not PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #17

Now don't be harsh booksandpencils Jul 2015 #63

Time for Greece to recite part of this document: freshwest Jul 2015 #13

The EU wants that more than Greece FLPanhandle Jul 2015 #21

Greece hill2016 Jul 2015 #31

It doesn't matter, this is what precipitated the Greek actions that brought it to a head. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #40

Its NOT "Blackmail". bvar22 Jul 2015 #14

So if my brother-in-law who already owes me a lot of money begs me for another loan, Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #19

You And Your Brother-In-Law Are Two People... WillyT Jul 2015 #24

So the identity of the people involved dumbcat Jul 2015 #28

Yes... When You Put Entire Democracies And Their People At Risk... Yes... WillyT Jul 2015 #29

The Ministry of Truth dumbcat Jul 2015 #41

So Apparently...None Of That Means Anything To You... WillyT Jul 2015 #42

Of course it does. It means you will change the definitions of words dumbcat Jul 2015 #43

I think hill2016 Jul 2015 #33

Here's a more appropriate analogy starroute Jul 2015 #26

Except that he doesn't "have" to do anything. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #30

Many here think... Adrahil Jul 2015 #35

sounds hill2016 Jul 2015 #32

This would be the "in receivership" alternative. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #52

It's called a "debt colony" and it's how Europe treated most of Africa and Asia for years Recursion Jul 2015 #54

You may argue that with the OP in which the demands were called "blackmail". bvar22 Jul 2015 #60

Intentionally confusing "extortion" and "coercion" for a better-sounding bumper sticker? LanternWaste Jul 2015 #61

THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #22

It's quite close to the original meaning of 'blackmail' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #47

I thought this was an interesting view on Greece's debt & one not mentioned much dflprincess Jul 2015 #39

Tsipras must become a sacrificial lamb if Syriza is to survive. joshcryer Jul 2015 #50