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In reply to the discussion: Syriza in shock over creditors' demands [View all]dflprincess
(28,980 posts)39. I thought this was an interesting view on Greece's debt & one not mentioned much
(at least in the U.S. media).
http://www.startribune.com/european-union-germany-s-debt-obsession-is-hypocrisy/313036681/
Germany failed to learn from its own history--and Greece is paying the price
As the minutes tick down before Sundays deadline for Greece to reach an agreement with its creditors or else face bankruptcy, the Greeks and their supporters are accusing Germany, their main creditor, of hypocrisy. After all, in 1953, Germanys creditors forgave half that nations debt so that the fledgling republic could recover from the war Germany had inflicted on those creditors, and thrive economically.
But Germany, which now adamantly declares that adherence to the rules of debt repayment must trump all other considerations, can rightly claim that in at least one crucial instance, it was anything but a hypocrite. As the Great Depression descended on Germany in 1930, its government a coalition of centrist parties headed by Chancellor Heinrich Brüning insisted on balancing its budget in order to convince its creditors (the nations to whom it was paying economically ruinous reparations as compensation for World War I) that it was a responsible debtor. In the hope that the creditor nations would respond by eventually canceling those reparations, Brüning slashed social spending and investment. He trod the path of fiscal rectitude even as unemployment reached record heights the same policy, under the same depression conditions, to which todays chancellor, Angela Merkel, has demanded Greece adhere.
As the minutes tick down before Sundays deadline for Greece to reach an agreement with its creditors or else face bankruptcy, the Greeks and their supporters are accusing Germany, their main creditor, of hypocrisy. After all, in 1953, Germanys creditors forgave half that nations debt so that the fledgling republic could recover from the war Germany had inflicted on those creditors, and thrive economically.
But Germany, which now adamantly declares that adherence to the rules of debt repayment must trump all other considerations, can rightly claim that in at least one crucial instance, it was anything but a hypocrite. As the Great Depression descended on Germany in 1930, its government a coalition of centrist parties headed by Chancellor Heinrich Brüning insisted on balancing its budget in order to convince its creditors (the nations to whom it was paying economically ruinous reparations as compensation for World War I) that it was a responsible debtor. In the hope that the creditor nations would respond by eventually canceling those reparations, Brüning slashed social spending and investment. He trod the path of fiscal rectitude even as unemployment reached record heights the same policy, under the same depression conditions, to which todays chancellor, Angela Merkel, has demanded Greece adhere....
...Does democracy trump debt? Of course not, Jochen Bittner, the political editor of the German weekly Die Zeit, wrote in a New York Times op-ed Tuesday, blissfully unconscious, it would seem, that such sentiments helped speed the Weimar Republic to its doom. Yet such sentiments have shaped German policy toward Greece since the beginning of the euro crisis. Worse, they have shaped the policy not only of the governing Christian Democrats but also increasingly of the opposition Social Democrats...
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You would think someone has a secret emergency plan developed in the last 6 months. n/t
PoliticAverse
Jul 2015
#2
"it’s a grotesque betrayal of everything the European project was supposed to stand for"
PoliticAverse
Jul 2015
#16
You can't lay all of Greece's financial problems at the feet of a few oligarchs or bankers
mythology
Jul 2015
#44
You can't call it a "swindle" when they were paying Goldman Sachs to lie for them
Recursion
Jul 2015
#51
Merkel as a hardliner is a myth spun by the ones who paint her photo with a Hitler mustache
DFW
Jul 2015
#46
I guess in the scenario listed they would be printing Drachmas like mad? I dont think folks rooting
stevenleser
Jul 2015
#25
Hey there, Depaysement...you probably still have me on 'ignore', but on the off-chance...
Surya Gayatri
Jul 2015
#59
The Greek Civil War - 1946–1949. Today's Greeks (by 66.5%) want to stay in the EU and the Euro-zone
Surya Gayatri
Jul 2015
#58
makes you wonder which German Bank put so fresh cash in Tsipras' Swiss bank account
JCMach1
Jul 2015
#5
So that thing about the referendum "no" vote strengthening Greece's negotiating position,
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#12
Unfortunately he choose a finance minister that wrote a book on game theory and not
PoliticAverse
Jul 2015
#17
It doesn't matter, this is what precipitated the Greek actions that brought it to a head. n/t
freshwest
Jul 2015
#40
So if my brother-in-law who already owes me a lot of money begs me for another loan,
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#19
It's called a "debt colony" and it's how Europe treated most of Africa and Asia for years
Recursion
Jul 2015
#54
Intentionally confusing "extortion" and "coercion" for a better-sounding bumper sticker?
LanternWaste
Jul 2015
#61
I thought this was an interesting view on Greece's debt & one not mentioned much
dflprincess
Jul 2015
#39