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CanSocDem

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14. Great thread. This...

Reply to Octafish (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 08:49 AM

Oct 2015

...from Mother Jones caught my eye:

'The surveillance state that Snowden and others have exposed is very much a legacy of the Dulles past. I think Dulles would have been delighted by how technology and other developments have allowed the American security state to go much further than he went. He had to build a team of cutthroats and assassins on the ground to go around eliminating the people he wanted to eliminate, who he felt were in the way of American interests. He called them communists. We call them terrorists today. And of course the most controversial part of my book, I'm sure, will be the end, where I say there was blowback from that. Because that killing machine in some way was brought back home.'

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You Think the NSA Is Bad? Meet Former CIA Director Allen Dulles. [View all] Octafish Oct 2015 OP

heck, in "Plutopia" I read about how Stalin's 1937 purge was inspired BY J. Edgar Hoover MisterP Oct 2015 #1

Glorious Victory! Octafish Oct 2015 #3

though if you look closely at Rivera you can see the little atoms there, too MisterP Oct 2015 #5

'Reading one line, one has to think he's a genius. Reading the next line, one realizes he's crazy.' Octafish Oct 2015 #13

the failure of technocracy in the Third World gave us cartels, deforestation, population booms, MisterP Oct 2015 #16

k & r & thanks! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #2

I NEVER once thought America would go GESTAPO. Octafish Oct 2015 #4

Dulles was an amoral monster very much in the style hifiguy Oct 2015 #6

It's like two worlds... Octafish Oct 2015 #8

Here's a 3-part series on the book: Holly_Hobby Oct 2015 #7

Thank you, Holly_Hobby! Octafish Oct 2015 #10

GREAT article. hifiguy Oct 2015 #11

The 1963 coup is the rosetta stone for American history bmyrab Dec 2015 #21

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #9

DUer Bill Kelly provides an excellent overview... Octafish Oct 2015 #12

Great thread. This... CanSocDem Oct 2015 #14

It's About Blackmail, Not National Security. Octafish Oct 2015 #15

"There exists within the Agency a continuing requirement from the Operating Divisions for a sub- bobthedrummer Oct 2015 #17

Young Dick Nixon was vice-president in 1953 when Dulles started MKULTRA program. Octafish Oct 2015 #18

The Shark was a huge asshole like Hoover. Rex Oct 2015 #19

Hoover ALSO obstructed Justice in regards to the assassination of President Kennedy. Octafish Oct 2015 #20