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Cary

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145. We do not know how this person sleeps

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:08 AM

Dec 2017

What I do see from this person is denial. Denial is a particularly toxic aspect of family dysfunction.

Yes you get all kinds of stuff here at DU. It's like shopping at TJ Maxx or Nordstroms Rack; you have to sort through a lot of crap to find the gems. I will not go so far as to call my supportive post a gem, but I have a lot of experience with dysfunctional families and I will not accept denial. We are all dysfunctional, but most of us in the balance are healthy. Being healthy is a process. Your ability to weigh the facts and let them take you to your conclusion is healthy, as is your ability to protect and nurture your inner child regardless of your family of origin scripts.

I recommend the lateJohn Bradshaw. I think you can find his Bradshaw on the Family series on YouTube.

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It's official - We've parted ways over politics [View all] KentuckyWoman Dec 2017 OP

I am so sorry you couldn't get through to him, I swear many dewsgirl Dec 2017 #1

Reagan took us down the path internal destruction. olegramps Dec 2017 #105

I somewhat know the feeling. I hope for you and your brother. I hate RW talk radio too. sadiegirl Dec 2017 #120

Losing family to any form of insanity is so painful. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #2

wish him well. and move on. pray for him if that's your thing. and move on. msongs Dec 2017 #3

i agree 100% with this. darbus Dec 2017 #53

I'm sorry, and I understand. blue cat Dec 2017 #4

same with me and my sister Rene Dec 2017 #95

Sounds like my brother, who used to be a Democrat until a woman won the nomination CousinIT Dec 2017 #5

Mr. Shraby had 6 bypasses. After the surgery, he began taking a mood shraby Dec 2017 #6

I've had two bypass surgeries, and... zanana1 Dec 2017 #96

I hear you KentuckyWoman Dec 2017 #144

happening to a lot of families! bluestarone Dec 2017 #7

I don't have anyone but I do experience thier racism and hate often but there is a movie lunasun Dec 2017 #8

" They sort of remind me of drug addicts except the high Alice11111 Dec 2017 #88

Pretty much the same thing with my brother. Eko Dec 2017 #9

I am so very sorry. I'm glad it's not your husband, though, and that he is supporting you in this.nt pnwmom Dec 2017 #10

So sorry to read this csziggy Dec 2017 #11

Trump should dissolve the congress???? rpannier Dec 2017 #12

He's not the only one. Mariana Dec 2017 #75

Self-styled super-"patriots" seem to hold the most un-American ideas. Beartracks Dec 2017 #122

Ive been having similar issues. liberalnarb Dec 2017 #13

My condolences on your loss, Kentucky Woman ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2017 #14

I pray you'll have a reconciliation. sandensea Dec 2017 #15

To be fair, at least he's upfront about the fact that he would be OK with Trump dissolving Congress. StevieM Dec 2017 #16

added up between my five siblings, we are 3 and 3. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2017 #17

It is a poison gay texan Dec 2017 #18

A good friend I've known since we were 13. I celebrated my 62nd birthday in June catbyte Dec 2017 #19

I think this may well be physical. nolabear Dec 2017 #20

I've seen this with some friends who developed Alzheimer's. Early on the signs were subtle SharonAnn Dec 2017 #34

I think you're right on target Locrian Dec 2017 #91

I am so sorry. Stay strong. lucca18 Dec 2017 #21

I haven't lost any family members yet to the right-wing madness, but several friends Glorfindel Dec 2017 #22

KentuckyWoman, I'm so sorry this has happened. Mariana Dec 2017 #23

I'm sorry for her pain but I have a generic question about family Bradshaw3 Dec 2017 #24

Never quite understood that myself . . . hatrack Dec 2017 #73

True Bradshaw3 Dec 2017 #82

A poster above mentioned going "no contact" with her sister and niece Merlot Dec 2017 #76

Yes, it does. And it's even worse when you've had luvtheGWN Dec 2017 #100

... Lucinda Dec 2017 #25

I feel the same way about me dad. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #26

It feels like a cult. I am so sorry. nt jrthin Dec 2017 #27

Sorry KentuckyWoman. Cary Dec 2017 #28

I think my brother in law is your brother. I'm sorry that our relatives are the way they are trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #29

Good for you and I know it's tough nini Dec 2017 #30

They have been brainwashed. TNNurse Dec 2017 #31

Tip of the hat to Molly Ivins IADEMO2004 Dec 2017 #33

Lordy, I miss her. TNNurse Dec 2017 #40

Wouldnt she be having a field day with Drumpf LuckyLib Dec 2017 #84

Fox and hate radio caused a terrible change in my Dad his last ten years. IADEMO2004 Dec 2017 #32

"I want to hate the architects of hate radio, and the politics of this age." Botany Dec 2017 #35

The hate machine exists because it makes them money Maggiemayhem Dec 2017 #107

It wasn't politics...its psychological. Xolodno Dec 2017 #36

Me too Olafjoy Dec 2017 #37

Welcome to DU, Olafjoy. calimary Dec 2017 #111

It sounds like you are disowning your sick brother Doodley Dec 2017 #38

You mean it's not your answer Cary Dec 2017 #44

Fine. Other people can see it anyway they wish. Doodley Dec 2017 #78

That's awfully generous of you Cary Dec 2017 #94

Cold is pissing off one's sick brother by talking down to him and acting self-righteous. Doodley Dec 2017 #112

You think KentuckyWoman is "self-righteous." Cary Dec 2017 #119

Like I really care. Do you normally insult people who don't agree with you too? Doodley Dec 2017 #132

I insulted you? Cary Dec 2017 #135

Sorry, I don't agree with every poster. If you think that is being nasty, so be it. By the way, I Doodley Dec 2017 #137

You said she had to suck it up for her family Cary Dec 2017 #138

There is a difference between sucking it up and acting like an asshole. I fall into the latter Doodley Dec 2017 #141

That is your right Cary Dec 2017 #142

Cary, it's OK - let it go. KentuckyWoman Dec 2017 #143

We do not know how this person sleeps Cary Dec 2017 #145

Not what I got, sounds like she's accepted that he's disowned her and then he walked out in a rage. marble falls Dec 2017 #51

People tend to walk out when you talk to them like this: Doodley Dec 2017 #83

Which came after this: marble falls Dec 2017 #85

I can see what is going on here. Doodley Dec 2017 #113

Bullshit Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #52

Not your call to make . . . hatrack Dec 2017 #74

"It was the last straw.....I told him he only has one life and it's about over." Doodley Dec 2017 #77

Well thanks, Councillor - I'll take that under advisement . . . hatrack Dec 2017 #92

How do you communicate MFM008 Dec 2017 #89

What do you want? For half the country to never talk to the other half? How does that Doodley Dec 2017 #114

SHE left Us MFM008 Dec 2017 #115

You said "There's no talking to them." When did you last try? Doodley Dec 2017 #116

I think what they're trying to say is that when the other party won't listen... haele Dec 2017 #140

I'm so sorry for you. I Haven't lost anyone due to politics, but I sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #39

I am so sorry for your loss. marble falls Dec 2017 #50

Peace to you lunasun Dec 2017 #59

Please consider that your brother may have undiagnosed dementia. Texin Dec 2017 #41

Good point. Thanks. n/t Catherine Vincent Dec 2017 #134

All too common... czarjak Dec 2017 #42

Sorry about that uponit7771 Dec 2017 #43

I've not lost my brother, but our relationship has suffered. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2017 #45

I swear this is turning into a cult. Initech Dec 2017 #46

It's long since become a cult. Mariana Dec 2017 #80

Hey Kentucky woman I know how you feel while reading your post FloridaBlues Dec 2017 #47

I'm in the same boat. My brother has also changed so much I scarcely know him. procon Dec 2017 #48

Its all we can do to be in the same room with my in-laws, she's 86 and he's 94.... marble falls Dec 2017 #49

it is so painful Hamlette Dec 2017 #54

Sorry to hear that, KentuckyWoman. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #55

You're not alone. mobeau69 Dec 2017 #56

I am so so sorry for your loss. irisblue Dec 2017 #57

I am so sorry for your loss. Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #58

Keep in mind that there may be a medical explanation greymattermom Dec 2017 #60

I'm so sorry to hear this KentuckyWoman............... Upthevibe Dec 2017 #65

I lost my sister and one of my brothers during Obama's terms LittleGirl Dec 2017 #61

so many of the posts here are so, so sad, but your family's situation really got to me renate Dec 2017 #124

Thank you LittleGirl Dec 2017 #125

insanity has taken over the day bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #62

This will all end very badly. Bozvotros Dec 2017 #63

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #64

whereas you, banned hundreds of times here, are NOT a drama queen? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2017 #66

Banned that many times? sakabatou Dec 2017 #69

probably thousands. Repeat troll extraordinaire! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2017 #70

Callous much? sakabatou Dec 2017 #67

Ironic. uppityperson Dec 2017 #68

I have lost quite a few family members and friends kellytore Dec 2017 #71

I am so very very sorry for your loss, KentuckyWoman.Your intuition about the surgery might be right Hekate Dec 2017 #72

I am sorry it came to this but there does come a time, unfortunately, when toxic people Solly Mack Dec 2017 #79

I am so sorry that you have to go through this terrible loss FM123 Dec 2017 #81

So sorry ... That's so sad. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #86

Sorry, but your brother has gotten the brainwash kyburbonkid Dec 2017 #87

drumpf loving redumbliCONs are a lost cause. democratisphere Dec 2017 #90

It is little comfort but HAB911 Dec 2017 #93

im so sorry.. this is quite literally happening in my family as well... samnsara Dec 2017 #97

I'm so sorry Bettie Dec 2017 #98

It's about time Western governments... doodsaq Dec 2017 #99

I feel your pain jimlup Dec 2017 #101

Kentucky, I feel for you. Thank you for sharing. Nitram Dec 2017 #102

Your story is the same as mine. I don't recognize my brother either Maraya1969 Dec 2017 #103

I am sorry True Blue American Dec 2017 #104

Please accept my condolences n/t malthaussen Dec 2017 #106

I know how you feel... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #108

I'm very sorry, KW NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #109

You're undoubtedly a better person than I am. Paladin Dec 2017 #110

I unfriended a friend of 45+ years today Faygo Kid Dec 2017 #117

Can relate with sad ending DownriverDem Dec 2017 #118

"Trump should dissolve the Congress" Wow! That's some next level Emperor Palpatine kind of shit. TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #121

as trite as it sounds, as long as there is breath, there is hope. my heart aches for you, niyad Dec 2017 #123

I am so sorry :( get the red out Dec 2017 #126

So Sorry For You colsohlibgal Dec 2017 #127

Probably all that Fox TV while convalescing started it. Ligyron Dec 2017 #128

So sorry to hear your impasse. I am fine with hating FOX and right wing radio on your behalf. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2017 #129

I am so sorry Catherine Vincent Dec 2017 #130

I know that a zillion people have responded to this but... jimmil Dec 2017 #131

I've had blood relatives go on anti-Obama tirades for the last 9 years and Niagara Dec 2017 #133

I'm sorry to hear this...remember... SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #136

Look up "walk in" ananda Dec 2017 #139