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48. Theoretically possible to refile them with a US Attorney... but that doesn't seem likely

Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:31 AM

Jul 2024

Too close to the election and there isn't an easy mechanism to transfer the case

And if he wins in November - an all new batch of attorneys

An appeal to the 11th is possible - but I can't see it happening in time for some other judge to get this to trial in time - and the 11th still leans red

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Trump classified documents case dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon over special counsel appointment [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 OP

Not a surprise. She has been in for trump since day one. brer cat Jul 2024 #1

True. Abigail_Adams Jul 2024 #44

Why the heck didn't they get the senate to vote to appoint? We had the votes and would have taken an hour. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #79

Are appointments something that can be filibustered? Polybius Jul 2024 #85

Justices, Judges and Executive Branch Appointments require only a majority vote to end Senate debate. n/t 24601 Jul 2024 #133

I doubt it was her (combing thru the constitution) onlyadream Jul 2024 #87

Heritage Foundation lawyers. KS Toronado Jul 2024 #122

And Federalist Society.... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2024 #186

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #108

Not to Trump and his lackey Judge. If fact the constitution goes in the dumpster if Trump would win Bengus81 Jul 2024 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #143

Goodbye Bayard Jul 2024 #154

Read the Cliff Notes version... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #160

Well, you know what that means. Mr. Evil Jul 2024 #190

You underestimate their willingness to cherry pick things they like and dislike. Claustrum Jul 2024 #197

Too true... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #203

You are SOOO right! GiqueCee Jul 2024 #201

Why didn't the Senate vote on the Biden's special Counsels, the AG just announced Historic NY Jul 2024 #134

So... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #169

Cannon is ... brakester Jul 2024 #157

Maybe because that's not how it's done!! dpibel Jul 2024 #189

True, but why wait till now? Polybius Jul 2024 #80

Timing. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #117

You're right Polybius Jul 2024 #118

That's what I'm wondering PatSeg Jul 2024 #128

And how bloody convenient when the bright shiny thing from Saturday niyad Jul 2024 #161

Judges don't usually go looking for new arguments and issues to bring to court. Igel Jul 2024 #204

Sweet gift from her Red Mountain Jul 2024 #2

Now I feel like I've been shot - in the gut jmbar2 Jul 2024 #3

Trying to scream Mme. Defarge Jul 2024 #72

One thing about being a criminal is getting away with it. Turbineguy Jul 2024 #4

Jesus. underpants Jul 2024 #5

Mary and Joseph. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #34

H. Roosevelt MontanaMama Jul 2024 #65

H. Christ in a Chicken Basket SKKY Jul 2024 #81

This will now go to the Supreme Court. FUCK THIS COUNTRY JohnSJ Jul 2024 #6

Appeals court first.................... Lovie777 Jul 2024 #9

Sure, and then the SC. It is over. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #13

Even if they rule against Trump, it's over Polybius Jul 2024 #90

If he wins the election, everything is over JohnSJ Jul 2024 #96

Clarence Thomas already decided the matter. sop Jul 2024 #42

☝️ This. Clarence Thomas introduced an answer to a question that was not asked in the immunity case. crickets Jul 2024 #205

Lot of good that will do. Katinfl Jul 2024 #181

Score a big one for the RW activists! Maeve Jul 2024 #7

The timing is 'perfect' since the RNC starts this week Hong Kong Cavalier Jul 2024 #198

The timing is interesting. Not sure what to make of it Raven123 Jul 2024 #8

Well she does it right when the entire nation is distracted by the violence at the Trump rally. Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #12

Highlight it. It's a boost for tRump. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #15

Because of the shooting? FBaggins Jul 2024 #20

No. Because of the RNC convention. Raven123 Jul 2024 #30

These events are well timed. Codifer Jul 2024 #82

Honestly, I don't think the trumpers would think it's too far. Claustrum Jul 2024 #135

She wrote a detailed summary (93 pages) from Friday to Monday? And as inexperienced as she is, how could she alone.... machoneman Jul 2024 #62

Probably used AI she is incapable of written orders.... Historic NY Jul 2024 #174

Sorry. Should have been more clear. I am thinking of the convention Raven123 Jul 2024 #194

Someone from the Federalist Society probably had it all written up and ready to go. nt crickets Jul 2024 #206

No words vapor2 Jul 2024 #10

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch suegeo Jul 2024 #11

Dear Jesus. The coup is still underway Botany Jul 2024 #14

The traitors have not stopped. Kid Berwyn Jul 2024 #17

This is so much of an in your face ruling that it is not funny. Botany Jul 2024 #52

EXACTLY! nt CoopersDad Jul 2024 #93

We are at war. hadEnuf Jul 2024 #196

Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E Jul 2024 #209

Nope. Novara Jul 2024 #16

They'll find a way to say his actions were based on an official act Tadpole Raisin Jul 2024 #32

They were obstructing justice on the docs a year after he was out of office. Bengus81 Jul 2024 #119

They don't care. They want his dictatorship. Justice matters. Jul 2024 #172

She dismissed it because supposedly Jack Smith was wrongly appointed. mtngirl47 Jul 2024 #36

Neal Katyal... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #127

Her ruling addressed the legality of the Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. It is unrelated to issues of 24601 Jul 2024 #39

Technically he may have been president when he stole the documents. Lonestarblue Jul 2024 #71

I believe he did pack up and move the documents out before he left the White House FakeNoose Jul 2024 #116

There are charges for obstruction not just taking docs. That obstruction occurred a year later. Bengus81 Jul 2024 #123

The dismissal was not based on Presidential immunity. It was based on the Special Prosecutor kelly1mm Jul 2024 #109

He's not our only human threat. It's his entire criminal enterprise. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #18

Welcome to the banana republic Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #19

I've felt like this for the last 30 years in Texas. walkingman Jul 2024 #113

Trump did move all the documents to Florida when he was President and we know that all LiberalArkie Jul 2024 #21

What would you do for a trillion dollars? live love laugh Jul 2024 #22

Not a lawyer or a judge but Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2024 #23

Not a lawyer either angrychair Jul 2024 #92

The Senate would now have to vote for Smith Polybius Jul 2024 #101

Can anyone tell me of a Special Council who ever slightlv Jul 2024 #124

I can't think of any Polybius Jul 2024 #130

This will make people mad, but david weiss was nominated and approved by congress thatdemguy Jul 2024 #179

Thanks for point out Hur. nt crickets Jul 2024 #207

Thank you for the info! slightlv Jul 2024 #213

I saw a few here saying it, that Hunter should use the same thing thatdemguy Jul 2024 #215

Trying to avoid the tin hat, but this certainly does seem mighty convenient Scalded Nun Jul 2024 #24

Even if the appeals court reversed the decision, kicks Tadpole Raisin Jul 2024 #25

She just recused herself from the eventual trial. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #26

Sure. Nothing to see here. Because emptywheel says so. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #33

Plenty to see here, if one opens their eyes and ears. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #64

Surely this constant insistance that everything is moving along as it's supposed to Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #66

Ah, that's where you're wrong Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #77

Lol. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #94

Theoretically possible to refile them with a US Attorney... but that doesn't seem likely FBaggins Jul 2024 #48

This case was never going to trial before the election anyway Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #67

This was my first thought. She is done with this case. ihaveaquestion Jul 2024 #107

One reply... Pluvious Jul 2024 #136

We've long known there would be no trial in this case before the election Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #139

Thats not the point. This will allow this SCOTUS to once again overturn a decision from a previous SCOTUS Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #147

The question of an SC's constitutionality was already adjudicated with Meuller. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #150

Having a US attorney file the case isn't the point. This SCOTUS wants to shit can special councils full stop. n/t Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #162

Since all the evidence was acquired through what Cannon deems an illegal funding mechanism Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #164

Except the bulk of the evidence was obtained by Garland's DOJ BEFORE Smith was appointed Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #192

I am literally stunned. ificandream Jul 2024 #27

The others were at one time appointed by congress to a court. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #98

She waited until NOW? bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #28

Just as the country is distracted by the "assassination attempt." Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #29

The media maybe distracted per usual, but I don't think the country is. He was seen out golfing yesterday PortTack Jul 2024 #88

WTHH? I think he still has documents. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #31

So if Trump still has classified documents, or copies, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with them. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #35

And, Abigail_Adams Jul 2024 #49

No. brakester Jul 2024 #173

Thank goodness. crickets Jul 2024 #208

Questions thinkingagain Jul 2024 #37

Not easy to prove that he stole them in DC FBaggins Jul 2024 #51

Thanx thinkingagain Jul 2024 #56

I'm kinda with you, thinkingagain... slightlv Jul 2024 #111

He was never charged with stealing the documents. former9thward Jul 2024 #200

I have a horrible sinking Codifer Jul 2024 #38

You know more fuckery is afoot pfitz59 Jul 2024 #45

That was Yeats, not Eliot... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #112

Criminal judge, criminal president, criminal party. byronius Jul 2024 #40

So, a US president can get into office, SpankMe Jul 2024 #41

yup, Codifer Jul 2024 #59

Me, too, so disillusioned that I'm almost dizzy and numb. quaint Jul 2024 #140

Guess who's auditioning for the SCOTUS? djacq Jul 2024 #43

Now we know she's being coached ... aggiesal Jul 2024 #46

Yep, Thomas OWNS her. bluestarone Jul 2024 #53

He very well may appeal to the 11th Circuit, which (barely) leans right and then it will kelly1mm Jul 2024 #126

Since Special Counsel is settled law, SCOTUS will no doubt overturn the Special Counsel law. n/t aggiesal Jul 2024 #184

This is maddening! That Cannon is so far over the edge on this! liberalla Jul 2024 #47

Stunning! Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2024 #50

*If* she is right, then Garland must resign Mr. Sparkle Jul 2024 #54

The courts have failed orangecrush Jul 2024 #55

Yep. The refrain was always, "The courts will hold." And here we are. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #70

buh bye Rule of law ... nt Jarqui Jul 2024 #57

"The order can be appealed, and other district judges and the D.C. Circuit have upheld the constitutionality of special riversedge Jul 2024 #58

What Will Jack Smith Do About This? MrWowWow Jul 2024 #60

Clearly, this is.... brakester Jul 2024 #180

It Just Occurred to Cannon That Jack Smith Was a Special Counsel? TomCADem Jul 2024 #61

Nope. The other Special Councils were appointed by the Senate to some position. including SC Weiss. kelly1mm Jul 2024 #163

Stack the Supreme Court! Smackdown2019 Jul 2024 #63

After all the Special Counselors and Special Prosecutors in our past, Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #68

The other Special Councils had been confirmed by the Senate to some position in government. Jack Smith kelly1mm Jul 2024 #166

Thank you for clarifying. Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #214

Loose Cannons sink ships trusty elf Jul 2024 #69

Finally, Barb McQuade "this is a blessing in disguise because Jack Smith can appeal immediately." Comfortably_Numb Jul 2024 #73

The timing of this definitely REEKS of political motivation sboatcar Jul 2024 #74

I sure wish this had been prosecuted aggressively from the moment it was discovered. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #75

Equal justice under the law? mn9driver Jul 2024 #76

If Smith wins on appeal a different judge, right? sarchasm Jul 2024 #78

Potential silver lining? jmbar2 Jul 2024 #83

Time to involve the 11th Circuit. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #84

Just for clarification bdamomma Jul 2024 #151

whatcha wanna bet she gets a huge RV for this Native Jul 2024 #86

Garland should have prosecuted himself iemanja Jul 2024 #89

WTF!!!! Talk about bad optics. Could she have decided for her boss any more positively? ffr Jul 2024 #91

I don't think this helps him in the election underpants Jul 2024 #114

I want some nuclear secrets for my bathroom! This is appealable so she should be tossed. Vinca Jul 2024 #95

The fix has been in for awhile for Trump. He knew where these court cases were heading and has acted like it. jalan48 Jul 2024 #97

I'm shocked! StarryNite Jul 2024 #99

Kinda sounds like the enigmania Jul 2024 #100

Good - in a way claudette Jul 2024 #102

Once again, Captain Pantload fails upward. Blue Owl Jul 2024 #103

It sure feels like a slap in the face. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #104

More like... brakester Jul 2024 #182

Both this and the made up doctrine of "official acts" can be revisited by SCOTUS around the same time. ancianita Jul 2024 #105

The fucking fuck??? nt AKwannabe Jul 2024 #106

THIS SHALL NOT STAND RobertDevereaux Jul 2024 #110

Save some of whatever you're smoking for the rest of the class FBaggins Jul 2024 #141

The 11th Circuit CAN remove Cannon for this ruling BUT it knows that its decision will be appealed and the ancianita Jul 2024 #142

What a lovely dream - TBF Jul 2024 #177

Laurence Tribe On X RobertDevereaux Jul 2024 #191

When the immunity ruling was made, Clarence Thomas gave Cannon the reasoning the SCOTUS WOULD SUPPORT re special counse ancianita Jul 2024 #120

I am behind you 200 percent. brakester Jul 2024 #185

Good. Because as you imply, we need to fight with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. ancianita Jul 2024 #188

Our justice system works for authoritarians. AllyCat Jul 2024 #121

This was Abstractartist Jul 2024 #125

There is no way I will ever believe Cannon was randomly... 3catwoman3 Jul 2024 #129

I am not one teeny bit surprised. BigDemVoter Jul 2024 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #132

Dick-Tator Trump / The defacto President is controlling our American Judiciary system Miami Blue Jul 2024 #137

Will this orange taint berksdem Jul 2024 #138

Sadly, the second a TFG judge took over the case, it was over. Claustrum Jul 2024 #144

I hope she has a stroke tonight cactusfractal Jul 2024 #145

Sorry. She isn't the one I want to have a stroke right about now. Claustrum Jul 2024 #148

Zoilacat bromeando Jul 2024 #146

What's with the zoilacat spam? JoseBalow Jul 2024 #202

Name of my cat bromeando Jul 2024 #218

But why do you make it the subject in unrelated replies? JoseBalow Jul 2024 #219

Can someone explain a few things? LilElf70 Jul 2024 #149

Let's try conspiracy Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #152

As a USAF veteran, I'm DISGUSTED that the prosecution of someone who stole classified national security documents can be iluvtennis Jul 2024 #153

Pretty much we figured this was coming moniss Jul 2024 #155

No surprise. That billionaire coup be happenin' NOW. n/t PatrickforB Jul 2024 #156

Can Jack Smith still file the appeal? Bayard Jul 2024 #158

But her emails. Orrex Jul 2024 #159

So Jack Smith's time was wasted and he's done. AngryOldDem Jul 2024 #165

So it's over? Nothing can happen to prosecute him for the documents? OverBurn Jul 2024 #167

With this Supreme Court, what do you think? Emile Jul 2024 #175

What a crock!!!! LeftInTX Jul 2024 #168

The last few days have seen Trump dodge a bullet and a Cannon blowing a hole through accountability. Efilroft Sul Jul 2024 #170

Our Judiciary branch is rotten to its core. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #171

Unfuckingbelievable. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #176

This introduces a complexity she probably didn't think of jmowreader Jul 2024 #178

- Lemon Lyman Jul 2024 #183

As far as I'm concerned... llmart Jul 2024 #187

A slow moving coup Beck23 Jul 2024 #193

Cannon overplayed her hand SARose Jul 2024 #195

We are a cartoon democracy. Javaman Jul 2024 #199

Roger Stone knew that Loose Cannon was going to dismiss this case LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #210

Doing the Lord's work. The Christian Taliban Hotler Jul 2024 #211

This was a timed show of strength. This gives Trump et al a "big win" to riff/lie off of. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #212

Cannon probably know her ruling won't be upheld Martin Eden Jul 2024 #216

"PAYBACK for the boss". Opportunistic moment, Trump got shot in the ear, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #217