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LilElf70

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149. Can someone explain a few things?

Mon Jul 15, 2024, 11:35 AM

Jul 2024

I'm sorry I didn't read every post here, but I have a few questions.

A lawyer is a lawyer. How did Jack Smith, a prosecutor for the case, violate the appointments clause of the U.S. Constitution?

And TFG stealing documents can be in no way interpreted as a presidential act, thus immunity should not even be considered in this case.

And if they're going to drop this case, why not reopen it with a different lawyer that is acceptable. Why is Jack Smith considered to be the type of lawyer that violates the US constitution?

The corrupt right is after our constitution. None of them believe in the constitution, and will always seek judges that will back up the corrupt awipe. There's hundreds of thousands of lawyers in this country. Find one that supports the constitution and the rule of law.

That is all.

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Trump classified documents case dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon over special counsel appointment [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 OP

Not a surprise. She has been in for trump since day one. brer cat Jul 2024 #1

True. Abigail_Adams Jul 2024 #44

Why the heck didn't they get the senate to vote to appoint? We had the votes and would have taken an hour. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #79

Are appointments something that can be filibustered? Polybius Jul 2024 #85

Justices, Judges and Executive Branch Appointments require only a majority vote to end Senate debate. n/t 24601 Jul 2024 #133

I doubt it was her (combing thru the constitution) onlyadream Jul 2024 #87

Heritage Foundation lawyers. KS Toronado Jul 2024 #122

And Federalist Society.... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2024 #186

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #108

Not to Trump and his lackey Judge. If fact the constitution goes in the dumpster if Trump would win Bengus81 Jul 2024 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #143

Goodbye Bayard Jul 2024 #154

Read the Cliff Notes version... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #160

Well, you know what that means. Mr. Evil Jul 2024 #190

You underestimate their willingness to cherry pick things they like and dislike. Claustrum Jul 2024 #197

Too true... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #203

You are SOOO right! GiqueCee Jul 2024 #201

Why didn't the Senate vote on the Biden's special Counsels, the AG just announced Historic NY Jul 2024 #134

So... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #169

Cannon is ... brakester Jul 2024 #157

Maybe because that's not how it's done!! dpibel Jul 2024 #189

True, but why wait till now? Polybius Jul 2024 #80

Timing. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #117

You're right Polybius Jul 2024 #118

That's what I'm wondering PatSeg Jul 2024 #128

And how bloody convenient when the bright shiny thing from Saturday niyad Jul 2024 #161

Judges don't usually go looking for new arguments and issues to bring to court. Igel Jul 2024 #204

Sweet gift from her Red Mountain Jul 2024 #2

Now I feel like I've been shot - in the gut jmbar2 Jul 2024 #3

Trying to scream Mme. Defarge Jul 2024 #72

One thing about being a criminal is getting away with it. Turbineguy Jul 2024 #4

Jesus. underpants Jul 2024 #5

Mary and Joseph. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #34

H. Roosevelt MontanaMama Jul 2024 #65

H. Christ in a Chicken Basket SKKY Jul 2024 #81

This will now go to the Supreme Court. FUCK THIS COUNTRY JohnSJ Jul 2024 #6

Appeals court first.................... Lovie777 Jul 2024 #9

Sure, and then the SC. It is over. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #13

Even if they rule against Trump, it's over Polybius Jul 2024 #90

If he wins the election, everything is over JohnSJ Jul 2024 #96

Clarence Thomas already decided the matter. sop Jul 2024 #42

☝️ This. Clarence Thomas introduced an answer to a question that was not asked in the immunity case. crickets Jul 2024 #205

Lot of good that will do. Katinfl Jul 2024 #181

Score a big one for the RW activists! Maeve Jul 2024 #7

The timing is 'perfect' since the RNC starts this week Hong Kong Cavalier Jul 2024 #198

The timing is interesting. Not sure what to make of it Raven123 Jul 2024 #8

Well she does it right when the entire nation is distracted by the violence at the Trump rally. Trueblue Texan Jul 2024 #12

Highlight it. It's a boost for tRump. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #15

Because of the shooting? FBaggins Jul 2024 #20

No. Because of the RNC convention. Raven123 Jul 2024 #30

These events are well timed. Codifer Jul 2024 #82

Honestly, I don't think the trumpers would think it's too far. Claustrum Jul 2024 #135

She wrote a detailed summary (93 pages) from Friday to Monday? And as inexperienced as she is, how could she alone.... machoneman Jul 2024 #62

Probably used AI she is incapable of written orders.... Historic NY Jul 2024 #174

Sorry. Should have been more clear. I am thinking of the convention Raven123 Jul 2024 #194

Someone from the Federalist Society probably had it all written up and ready to go. nt crickets Jul 2024 #206

No words vapor2 Jul 2024 #10

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch suegeo Jul 2024 #11

Dear Jesus. The coup is still underway Botany Jul 2024 #14

The traitors have not stopped. Kid Berwyn Jul 2024 #17

This is so much of an in your face ruling that it is not funny. Botany Jul 2024 #52

EXACTLY! nt CoopersDad Jul 2024 #93

We are at war. hadEnuf Jul 2024 #196

Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E Jul 2024 #209

Nope. Novara Jul 2024 #16

They'll find a way to say his actions were based on an official act Tadpole Raisin Jul 2024 #32

They were obstructing justice on the docs a year after he was out of office. Bengus81 Jul 2024 #119

They don't care. They want his dictatorship. Justice matters. Jul 2024 #172

She dismissed it because supposedly Jack Smith was wrongly appointed. mtngirl47 Jul 2024 #36

Neal Katyal... 2naSalit Jul 2024 #127

Her ruling addressed the legality of the Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. It is unrelated to issues of 24601 Jul 2024 #39

Technically he may have been president when he stole the documents. Lonestarblue Jul 2024 #71

I believe he did pack up and move the documents out before he left the White House FakeNoose Jul 2024 #116

There are charges for obstruction not just taking docs. That obstruction occurred a year later. Bengus81 Jul 2024 #123

The dismissal was not based on Presidential immunity. It was based on the Special Prosecutor kelly1mm Jul 2024 #109

He's not our only human threat. It's his entire criminal enterprise. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #18

Welcome to the banana republic Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #19

I've felt like this for the last 30 years in Texas. walkingman Jul 2024 #113

Trump did move all the documents to Florida when he was President and we know that all LiberalArkie Jul 2024 #21

What would you do for a trillion dollars? live love laugh Jul 2024 #22

Not a lawyer or a judge but Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2024 #23

Not a lawyer either angrychair Jul 2024 #92

The Senate would now have to vote for Smith Polybius Jul 2024 #101

Can anyone tell me of a Special Council who ever slightlv Jul 2024 #124

I can't think of any Polybius Jul 2024 #130

This will make people mad, but david weiss was nominated and approved by congress thatdemguy Jul 2024 #179

Thanks for point out Hur. nt crickets Jul 2024 #207

Thank you for the info! slightlv Jul 2024 #213

I saw a few here saying it, that Hunter should use the same thing thatdemguy Jul 2024 #215

Trying to avoid the tin hat, but this certainly does seem mighty convenient Scalded Nun Jul 2024 #24

Even if the appeals court reversed the decision, kicks Tadpole Raisin Jul 2024 #25

She just recused herself from the eventual trial. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #26

Sure. Nothing to see here. Because emptywheel says so. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #33

Plenty to see here, if one opens their eyes and ears. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #64

Surely this constant insistance that everything is moving along as it's supposed to Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #66

Ah, that's where you're wrong Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #77

Lol. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #94

Theoretically possible to refile them with a US Attorney... but that doesn't seem likely FBaggins Jul 2024 #48

This case was never going to trial before the election anyway Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #67

This was my first thought. She is done with this case. ihaveaquestion Jul 2024 #107

One reply... Pluvious Jul 2024 #136

We've long known there would be no trial in this case before the election Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #139

Thats not the point. This will allow this SCOTUS to once again overturn a decision from a previous SCOTUS Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #147

The question of an SC's constitutionality was already adjudicated with Meuller. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #150

Having a US attorney file the case isn't the point. This SCOTUS wants to shit can special councils full stop. n/t Cheezoholic Jul 2024 #162

Since all the evidence was acquired through what Cannon deems an illegal funding mechanism Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #164

Except the bulk of the evidence was obtained by Garland's DOJ BEFORE Smith was appointed Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #192

I am literally stunned. ificandream Jul 2024 #27

The others were at one time appointed by congress to a court. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #98

She waited until NOW? bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #28

Just as the country is distracted by the "assassination attempt." Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #29

The media maybe distracted per usual, but I don't think the country is. He was seen out golfing yesterday PortTack Jul 2024 #88

WTHH? I think he still has documents. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #31

So if Trump still has classified documents, or copies, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with them. Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #35

And, Abigail_Adams Jul 2024 #49

No. brakester Jul 2024 #173

Thank goodness. crickets Jul 2024 #208

Questions thinkingagain Jul 2024 #37

Not easy to prove that he stole them in DC FBaggins Jul 2024 #51

Thanx thinkingagain Jul 2024 #56

I'm kinda with you, thinkingagain... slightlv Jul 2024 #111

He was never charged with stealing the documents. former9thward Jul 2024 #200

I have a horrible sinking Codifer Jul 2024 #38

You know more fuckery is afoot pfitz59 Jul 2024 #45

That was Yeats, not Eliot... regnaD kciN Jul 2024 #112

Criminal judge, criminal president, criminal party. byronius Jul 2024 #40

So, a US president can get into office, SpankMe Jul 2024 #41

yup, Codifer Jul 2024 #59

Me, too, so disillusioned that I'm almost dizzy and numb. quaint Jul 2024 #140

Guess who's auditioning for the SCOTUS? djacq Jul 2024 #43

Now we know she's being coached ... aggiesal Jul 2024 #46

Yep, Thomas OWNS her. bluestarone Jul 2024 #53

He very well may appeal to the 11th Circuit, which (barely) leans right and then it will kelly1mm Jul 2024 #126

Since Special Counsel is settled law, SCOTUS will no doubt overturn the Special Counsel law. n/t aggiesal Jul 2024 #184

This is maddening! That Cannon is so far over the edge on this! liberalla Jul 2024 #47

Stunning! Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2024 #50

*If* she is right, then Garland must resign Mr. Sparkle Jul 2024 #54

The courts have failed orangecrush Jul 2024 #55

Yep. The refrain was always, "The courts will hold." And here we are. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #70

buh bye Rule of law ... nt Jarqui Jul 2024 #57

"The order can be appealed, and other district judges and the D.C. Circuit have upheld the constitutionality of special riversedge Jul 2024 #58

What Will Jack Smith Do About This? MrWowWow Jul 2024 #60

Clearly, this is.... brakester Jul 2024 #180

It Just Occurred to Cannon That Jack Smith Was a Special Counsel? TomCADem Jul 2024 #61

Nope. The other Special Councils were appointed by the Senate to some position. including SC Weiss. kelly1mm Jul 2024 #163

Stack the Supreme Court! Smackdown2019 Jul 2024 #63

After all the Special Counselors and Special Prosecutors in our past, Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #68

The other Special Councils had been confirmed by the Senate to some position in government. Jack Smith kelly1mm Jul 2024 #166

Thank you for clarifying. Midnight Writer Jul 2024 #214

Loose Cannons sink ships trusty elf Jul 2024 #69

Finally, Barb McQuade "this is a blessing in disguise because Jack Smith can appeal immediately." Comfortably_Numb Jul 2024 #73

The timing of this definitely REEKS of political motivation sboatcar Jul 2024 #74

I sure wish this had been prosecuted aggressively from the moment it was discovered. Scrivener7 Jul 2024 #75

Equal justice under the law? mn9driver Jul 2024 #76

If Smith wins on appeal a different judge, right? sarchasm Jul 2024 #78

Potential silver lining? jmbar2 Jul 2024 #83

Time to involve the 11th Circuit. CaptainTruth Jul 2024 #84

Just for clarification bdamomma Jul 2024 #151

whatcha wanna bet she gets a huge RV for this Native Jul 2024 #86

Garland should have prosecuted himself iemanja Jul 2024 #89

WTF!!!! Talk about bad optics. Could she have decided for her boss any more positively? ffr Jul 2024 #91

I don't think this helps him in the election underpants Jul 2024 #114

I want some nuclear secrets for my bathroom! This is appealable so she should be tossed. Vinca Jul 2024 #95

The fix has been in for awhile for Trump. He knew where these court cases were heading and has acted like it. jalan48 Jul 2024 #97

I'm shocked! StarryNite Jul 2024 #99

Kinda sounds like the enigmania Jul 2024 #100

Good - in a way claudette Jul 2024 #102

Once again, Captain Pantload fails upward. Blue Owl Jul 2024 #103

It sure feels like a slap in the face. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #104

More like... brakester Jul 2024 #182

Both this and the made up doctrine of "official acts" can be revisited by SCOTUS around the same time. ancianita Jul 2024 #105

The fucking fuck??? nt AKwannabe Jul 2024 #106

THIS SHALL NOT STAND RobertDevereaux Jul 2024 #110

Save some of whatever you're smoking for the rest of the class FBaggins Jul 2024 #141

The 11th Circuit CAN remove Cannon for this ruling BUT it knows that its decision will be appealed and the ancianita Jul 2024 #142

What a lovely dream - TBF Jul 2024 #177

Laurence Tribe On X RobertDevereaux Jul 2024 #191

When the immunity ruling was made, Clarence Thomas gave Cannon the reasoning the SCOTUS WOULD SUPPORT re special counse ancianita Jul 2024 #120

I am behind you 200 percent. brakester Jul 2024 #185

Good. Because as you imply, we need to fight with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. ancianita Jul 2024 #188

Our justice system works for authoritarians. AllyCat Jul 2024 #121

This was Abstractartist Jul 2024 #125

There is no way I will ever believe Cannon was randomly... 3catwoman3 Jul 2024 #129

I am not one teeny bit surprised. BigDemVoter Jul 2024 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #132

Dick-Tator Trump / The defacto President is controlling our American Judiciary system Miami Blue Jul 2024 #137

Will this orange taint berksdem Jul 2024 #138

Sadly, the second a TFG judge took over the case, it was over. Claustrum Jul 2024 #144

I hope she has a stroke tonight cactusfractal Jul 2024 #145

Sorry. She isn't the one I want to have a stroke right about now. Claustrum Jul 2024 #148

Zoilacat bromeando Jul 2024 #146

What's with the zoilacat spam? JoseBalow Jul 2024 #202

Name of my cat bromeando Jul 2024 #218

But why do you make it the subject in unrelated replies? JoseBalow Jul 2024 #219

Can someone explain a few things? LilElf70 Jul 2024 #149

Let's try conspiracy Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #152

As a USAF veteran, I'm DISGUSTED that the prosecution of someone who stole classified national security documents can be iluvtennis Jul 2024 #153

Pretty much we figured this was coming moniss Jul 2024 #155

No surprise. That billionaire coup be happenin' NOW. n/t PatrickforB Jul 2024 #156

Can Jack Smith still file the appeal? Bayard Jul 2024 #158

But her emails. Orrex Jul 2024 #159

So Jack Smith's time was wasted and he's done. AngryOldDem Jul 2024 #165

So it's over? Nothing can happen to prosecute him for the documents? OverBurn Jul 2024 #167

With this Supreme Court, what do you think? Emile Jul 2024 #175

What a crock!!!! LeftInTX Jul 2024 #168

The last few days have seen Trump dodge a bullet and a Cannon blowing a hole through accountability. Efilroft Sul Jul 2024 #170

Our Judiciary branch is rotten to its core. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #171

Unfuckingbelievable. SunSeeker Jul 2024 #176

This introduces a complexity she probably didn't think of jmowreader Jul 2024 #178

- Lemon Lyman Jul 2024 #183

As far as I'm concerned... llmart Jul 2024 #187

A slow moving coup Beck23 Jul 2024 #193

Cannon overplayed her hand SARose Jul 2024 #195

We are a cartoon democracy. Javaman Jul 2024 #199

Roger Stone knew that Loose Cannon was going to dismiss this case LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #210

Doing the Lord's work. The Christian Taliban Hotler Jul 2024 #211

This was a timed show of strength. This gives Trump et al a "big win" to riff/lie off of. SupportSanity Jul 2024 #212

Cannon probably know her ruling won't be upheld Martin Eden Jul 2024 #216

"PAYBACK for the boss". Opportunistic moment, Trump got shot in the ear, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2024 #217