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In reply to the discussion: At least 6 killed (now 15 children dead), over 30 wounded in Hezbollah attack; IDF probing why rocket not downed [View all]Richard D
(9,516 posts)I will strive to be less reactive. However, this is a complex and subtle topic that needs more attentionnot in a personal way toward you, but toward a lot I have seen and noticed in the last nine months.
To have antisemitism does not always mean waving a nazi flag or chanting Jews will not replace us or shouting from the river to the sea. It can also subtly manifest, in this propaganda-strewn world, in what a person chooses to believe. In the horrific case of post-10/7, for example, is the Gaza death toll unquestionably believed when we know that the numbers are coming out of a terrorist organization with much to gain from enraging the world against Israel? And who happens to be fantastic at pushing propaganda?
Then there is the idea you stated that Israel is an occupier. This is such a dense topic that I'm not going to get into it as I have real-world work to do today. But it reminds me of something I have noticed in my travels. All over the world, you will find people who sneeringly complain about tourists - who also are tourists but do not recognize it or admit it. This has led to my definition of "tourist" as anyone who arrives in a location more than a few days after the person using the word did.
Every single person living in the United States who is not Native American is an occupier. But somehow, that is OK, and we're really not because of reasons.
91% of Palestinians do not know of the atrocities their government and people committed, even though there are videos of Gazans chanting praise to Allah at the deaths of Jews. But Hamas said it, so it must be true. And as was mentioned in this post, who and how are taking the polls? But it's instantly believed, and the Israelis are instantly not believed because of Netanyahu.
I have in this community of DU I have been a member of for well over 20 years. Since 10/7 I have seen all of the common antisemetic tropes used but with a socially acceptable liberal flavor. I will maybe someday make a separate post on this, but it'll probably get me kicked out.
So I go back, if a Jew tells a person that they are antisemetic, they should consider if they are. More, they should study the easily accessible lists of antisemetic tropes and honestly inquire if they are falling into any of them. To be clear, this may not be happening on a conscious level, but on the level of what one believes to be true.